You Can Never Awaken a Man Who Is Pretending to be Asleep

The White House and media response to the events in the US embassies in Egypt and Libya can be characterized by the fact they speak like they have never seen Sharia mob justice before in their lives. Or, at least, you would think that from the knowledge and wisdom they display in their analysis.

For the last 11 years since 9/11, we have watched the same events unroll in the Islamic world and the same response come from our so-called leaders in the government, media, schools and the pulpits. The establishment view: Those Muslims are extremists, not real Muslims. We should be careful not to offend the religion of peace. When Muslims are offended by movies, Koran burnings and Mohammed cartoons, it is our fault.

The clue phone is ringing, pick it up. Here are the clues:

The murder of intellectuals and artists who criticize Mohammed is Sunna. Sunna is the perfect example of Mohammed’s life. When Mohammed captured Mecca, he first prayed, then he destroyed all religious art and then he issued death warrants for the artists and intellectuals who had opposed him. There are only two new facts in the Koran, a derivative work. The first new fact is that Mohammed is the prophet of Allah, and the second new truth is that if you don’t believe he is prophet of Allah, you can be killed.

Violence is what brings Islam success. In Mohammed’s life, he preached the religion of Islam for 13 years and garnered 150 new followers. When he went to Medina and became a politician and a warlord, when he died every Arab was a Muslim. Jihad violence was what made Islam successful. If Mohammed practice jihad, Muslims must use the technique of jihad.

Hello establishment experts, the black flag is not an Al Qaeda flag. The black flag with the Shahada, “There is no god, but Allah and Mohammed is his prophet” and the swords goes back to the Golden Age of Islam in Baghdad in the 9th century. (The establishment professors never tell you about this jihad aspect of the Islamic Golden Age.) This jihad flag is ancient.

Current news is that Ambassador Stevens was raped before he was killed. If so, then this is pure jihad doctrine. The rules for rape of captured Kafirs (unbelievers) are Sunna. At the conquest of the Jews in Khaybar, the Hadith are explicit that captured Kafirs can be raped.

The mob is a manifestation of the Sharia and the umma (the Islamic community). Notice that when a fatwa is issued, such as the famous fatwa by Khomeini against Salmon Rushdie for his artistic work The Satanic Verses, the fatwa is not to be fulfilled by the Islamic police. No, the murder is to be carried by any member of the umma. This is vigilante justice, Sharia justice, mob justice. Pay attention to how often Muslims riot to make political gain.

The shortest hadith is: war is deceit. So here come all of the “good” Muslims to explain how the murder and riots are not real Islam. And they are so upset about what Arabs are doing at the US embassies. But, they still can tell us that Islam is the religion of peace, without a single trace of irony.

The idea that we should not blaspheme Islam, Mohammed or Allah is pure Sharia and the position of the OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation). It seems that none of the establishment experts have the foggiest idea of what Sharia blasphemy entails. Not believing that Mohammed is the prophet of Allah, that a woman is a second class citizen, that jihad is part of Islam is all blasphemy. Critical thought is blasphemy. The Golden Rule is blasphemy. Any well-founded religion can survive blasphemy, except Islam, and that is the reason it is forbidden. But the worst part of this travesty is the refrain from Obama and Hillary that we should subvert our freedom of speech to the demands of the Sharia. The Sharia is Allah’s law and our Constitution is a document of ignorance to be removed from the world. So say the imams and Obama and Hillary.

And now for the last tired response from the apologists: those violent people are an extremist fringe. NO! The mobs are main-line Islam.

You can awaken a man who is asleep, but you will never awaken a man who is pretending to be asleep. That is the reason that we find our experts in the government, media, education and the pulpits to be such dhimmis. They have refused to learn a single thing about Islamic doctrine and history since 9/11. But, cheer up! When the dhimmis write about the beauty of Islam and how the Kafirs are wrong, read the comments. You will find that the common man knows far, far more about Islam than the experts. The higher you go, the less they know.


Bill Warner, Director, Center for the Study of Political Islam
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70 Responses

  1. Pat MacGregor
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    Sorry, I had not read the discussions on this until after I posted. Still do not completely understand but read your responses. If they are ignorant of the doctrine, that would be very telling. However, if they are not ignorant of it, I still think they would not be able or willing to differentiate between the Meccan and Medinan verses.

  2. Pat MacGregor
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    Bill – you commented that, “Since Islam is dualitisic, there are always two Islams, Mecca and Medina. Muslims have a choice.”
    But the Meccan and Medinan verses are both in the Quran so I don’t understand how they can have a choice without disregarding the whole religion – which would be a good thing in my opinion. Am I missing something?

    • Ex-Muslim junior mogambo ranger
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      Pat,

      What you are missing is the fundamentals of “Islamic Logic”. In Islam you can indeed have a choice without disregarding the whole religion. Welcome to Islamic Logic. In Islamic logic, since both things come from allah, they both have to be true. Because he is Allah, he can do anything. Allah is not bound by the Rules of Logic.
      Dr Warner is a busy man. But I’m not. Feel free to ask any other questions that perplex you

      Best

  3. Hellbat44
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    Like I told you on November 1st, A muslim Convert, “you are a retarded nut job who needs to increase the dosage on your medications. You really do need to go get some more professional help…Islam isn’t going to do it for you!” You have lost touch with reality, why don’t you do something constructive and beneficial to all the rest of us Kafirs and accidentally blow yourself up while playing with your martyr vest! Come on…I can hear the 72 virgins calling your name!!! You will even get a cameo appearance with Allah (shit be upon him) himself!! Wow, very exciting, right? How can you resist Paridise? Bottom line? You are a mentally retarded clown that nobody on this website takes seriously!!

  4. A muslim Convert
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    Dear All

    As you can see my last post before USA election . I have repeatedly said in my message that OBAMA wil be elected no matter what gaffes he made.

    I sincerelyurge reader read all my message from this page and pasue to think why ALL of you must convert to muslim…

    I hope you can be the side of evil and let us MUSLIM subjugate the world so that EVIL win as what NATURE wants us to be..Pure chaos….and estrunction of non-muslim civilization..and restore RESTORE pure SHARIAH and ARavbian culture….

    For those who are non-xtians..it is already very easy for you to convert to muslim….Don’t made it harder for yourself when we have to ” force” you to convert….

    We are more concerned about the recalcitrant JEWS and XTIANS that are our main obstacles becasue our ALLAH so detest them and…..BILL warner wrote silly stories about xtains persecution in the october section that no one really cares…so long it is xtains…see the BURMA mistreatement of muslim roghinyas ..and the whole muslim world and liberal voice demands actions…WE muslim can killed but made no bones about the other way around…It is FACT..get used to it…CONVERT and get it done ..

  5. Alix
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    Dr. Warner:

    Do you believe that Benghazi happened because of the Somali pirate incident with the Mursk Alabama, where they took Captain Richard Phillips hostage?

    I heard that after the Somali pirates were shot that Obama was very angry. Why? At first I thought that he didn’t like the killing, but the drone attacks has dispelled that theory. I believe the Vice Admiral of the sixth fleet (who has since been replaced) knew his history, and dared to send the USS Bainbridge to the scene.

    For those who know their history, Captain Bainbridge was held captive for almost two years, along with his crew in Derna, Tripoli (modern day Libya) in the Barbary Wars. When a small contingent of Marines led by Presley O’Bannon, Willam Eaton, and many ‘soldiers of fortune’ holed up in a fort in Benghazi before capturing Derna, and freeing Captain Bainbridge and his crew.

    By sending the USS Bainbridge
    it was revenge served “Iced-Cold”!

    Obama seems to know his history of Islam (something they try to hide from us), but there are still books out there if you look carefully which tell you some of the history of the Triptolian Wars.

    If you know of any book titles that accurately tell about the Islamic Horde please let me know. They’re very hard to find.

  6. A muslim Convert
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    Mr Ralph and all

    I will not debate nor reply until the USA election results are out…and be sure..and be prepare..MUSLIM Obama will be ELECTED…..It must happen else the AWFUL Horror cannot happen..The persecuation cannot happen..The rapture cannot happen…Armageedeon cannot happen..CHRISTIAN persecution cannot happen..Evil betray ISREAL after 3.5 years after peace is seal and broken cannot happen…..etc,,,.

    Ralph…You may us…Hey dude..why do I know that Bible prophecy if comes true..why I am MUSLIM…Strange right…I bet all reader wanna know…

    Well folks…You just have to wait till OBAMA speech upon victory….and watch his every ISLAIMIC stealth working full steam….

    I shall explained in the october section as this september is past its due..

    Vote OBAMA and hasten the Demise of christianity and western civilisation…People who are smart will realised….Why were USA not mentioned in the BIBLE..but theres a catch here….in revealation…” in just 1 hour……the world watch in horror….the once mighty natins wents up in smoke in just 1 hr…..

  7. Hellbat44
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    A muslim Convert, after laughing through all of your pathetic and misguided rants, I just can’t help but think you are a retarded nut job who needs to increase the dosage on your medications. You really do need to go get some more professional help…Islam isn’t going to do it for you! You need to get a life…. Hellbat44

  8. Ralph
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    To: A Muslim Convert

    As I explained in my post on 10/25/12, any person who claims to be a true Islamic Muslim while simultaneously benefiting from life in a free society (like America) – where full Shari’a is not implemented – is living a fairy tale.

    A person who converts to Islam in America is deceived about the true nature of Islam. If that person were to be thrown into an environment where full Shari’a is implemented, that person would deeply regret conversion to Islam; it would be an extremely-rude awakening.

    Islam is a very deceptive ideology in many ways. It stealthily sucks people into its cruel vortex and then tells them that they can be murdered if they later choose to defect from Islam. Islam is darkness.

    No rational, un-intimidated follower of Jesus the Messiah, the Christ, the Savior of the world, the good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth, the Life – who has been walking with Jesus, talking with Him, drawing near to Him, clinging to Him, relying on Him, unselfishly loving people with Him – would ever convert to Islam. Life with Jesus has no equal.

    If a purported Christian in a free society claims to have converted to Islam, then that person was not walking with Jesus. No person who is clinging to Jesus could be so unwise, because there is a deep wisdom that is imparted to a person who is closely following Jesus.

    I urge you to forsake and renounce Muhammad – the cheap imitation, the counterfeit – and run to Jesus and cling to Him for the rest of your life. There is no other source of true life and peace and joy and release from bondage. There is only one Truth.

  9. A muslim Convert
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    This is in reply to Steffen Larsen and Ralph ( The loser Christian )”million of Christian are abandoning Jesus for Mohamed”Yes…Ralph and the likes of Bill and all you Anti -Muslim bigots needs to admit that games over”Please do the honorable and CONVERT”like ME.
    I have said again and before the US election” OBAMA will win 2ND term and there are reasons to it. Only he can usher the complete collapse of the last BASTION of western civilization or Christian civilization. My earlier mail already mentioned that all OBAMA and Clinton are the GREAETEST US politicians of all TIME”Losing USA and destroyed western civilization without waging a war”We have been successful in EUROPE and like I said before it is DONE DEAL and a victory for us MUSLIM. ..This itself is the greatest MIRACLE of all miracle.. Better than USA not firing a single shot at former USSR during the cold war.
    But USSR is not a done deal whereas EUROPE is a done deal. Just like BYE zantine”
    Maybe EURPOE should be called BYE Europe..oh well..EURABIA sounds better..
    Steffen, your name sound Swedish..Most probably you from Sweden..Well. I am sure you know.. Stockholm is the rape CAPITAL of Europe”.I think you know who the Rapists and is no crime for us..while the kafirs do it is a crime”Recent Myanmar case where we came out to rape kafirs to start a jihad”See the whole on MUSLIM side..We rape ..you retaliate ..we get support from UN ..EUROPE, USA..THAT IS WHY I CONVERT!!! MORON”can’t you see ..Be on the winning sides
    http://theopinionator.typepad.com/my_weblog/2009/04/sweden-tops-europe-for-number-of-rapes.html
    See quotes from the Link below
    Now what does the Quran/Islam tell us about muslim men raping kafir or non-muslim girls?:
    “Islam gives an open license to Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with women as long as these women are not Muslims and/or when these Muslim men are living in an infidel country.” Link
    and in regards to paedophilia –This is what Imam Khomeini, the top shia authority says:
    “A Muslim man can have sexual pleasure with a little girl as young as a baby. But he should not penetrate her vaginally, however he can sodomize her”. (Tehriro vasyleh, fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990) Link
    Now Steffen , I suggest you don’t waste your time fighting the unfightable and be a MUSLIM. It has all the advantages of being in POWER over the ka Steffen firs..1,800,000,000 is behind you.
    Now to Ralph (The loser Christian)”
    Why don’t you admit and go to EUROPE and see for yourself that Not a Single European has gone to CHURCH..All church is being bought over by Muslim and the same shall be done to ground ZERO New York, where we will build a Mosque and called it the CORDOBA initiative by our great TAQIYAH master Daisy Khan “I think I don’t want to write so much as I have presented so many facts in my earlier mail that not A single PEOPLE can refute it.
    I understand loser mentality”Cry and sob to your momma”I think better is every one CONVERT like me”
    For a though people..Famous white ex -Christian convert
    CAT STEVENS..
    Oliver stone sons SEAN STONE
    Neil ARMSTRONG
    21 Sep 2004 – Journalist Yvonne Ridley tells of her conversion to Islam, three years after her capture by the Taleban.
    Lauren Booth – Tony Blair Sister In law..
    Sheik Yusuf was raised in a strong Christian home, he was educated in Texas, became Muslim after realised that CHRISTIAN WAS a joke.
    Jihad Jane and the millions of BLONDE HAIR blue eyes that witness the ALLAH.
    Please don’t miss the boat because there is no more BLONDE HAIR blue eyes of your own and we have own them mate”ALL been arabised”
    So Bill WARNER, please pack up and be a SCIENTIST and proof that QURAN has the Answer to all SCIENCE AND MATHS questions”READ it”CONVERT”

    Dear Readers…If my prediction comes true that OBAMA is elected…You know what to do….CONVERT less you know the outcome..Sorry mate…Its ALLAH will that what must be done to islamised the WORLD MUST be done…Good Luck kafirs…

  10. Amit
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    Steffen…

    I understand this. It was some visual error as I saw my comment immediately posted up and then again not seen (and I found that it is such. you feel your comment came very moment after you posted it) but once you refresh and see in another browser you don’t see it.
    I was just confused

  11. Steffen Larsen
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    Amit, everything submitted here apparently has to be okay’ed by the moderator. Clearly this is not a 24/7 job and sometimes there’s a sizeable lag until the actual posting.
    It’s just the way it is.

  12. Amit
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    I wonder why my comment is not seen here when it is pro-content of the message here in website

  13. Amit
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    We by inherent nature like simplicity. Life is simple and we make it complex but we like to have clarity and simplicity as peace is something we love to have.

    Christianity and Islam are very simple in format to understand. Many layers are cut off and so people have adopted it. There are other religions which seem more complex but once you go to depth, you find the underlying simplicity and layers of adaptability as time changes.

    When things are simple, you have (the warrior mindest anyways is not able to think much complex from already complex system) ease to mould the simple things and make it beneficial for your own evil cause.

    If the things are simple and yet with many layers added so that universally everyone can adopt to the laters.. slowly the joy of simplicity revealed is something very deep.

    Islam’s basic are very simple as – principle of submission and principle of duality. On this everything can be played and no need to add to layers to conform to golden rule or appeal to everyone. Islam’s basics are so simple and so inherently evil, that it is most easiest to spread it with evil ways.

    But then as humans we are also intellectual beings. We not only love simplicity, but also clarity and peace derived from simplicity. If it is not, we would go to layers and understand the connections to get to the core.

    So i feel, as humans today we are well equipped to understand the fallacies of political islam.

    We do have our evil side… but that grows more within based on how we are nourished.

    If intellectually nourished.. we would always like to go towards simplicty of message which also gives peaceful coexistence to everyone. Sadly Islam is not in this category. in many ways Christianity was also not in this… but people have realised truth and going for peace message only. Islam is political and so the core is also political. it never is for peace

  14. Ralph
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    “A Muslim Convert” wrote on October 21, 2012, “… It is no secrects [sic] that many millions of white ex-christians [sic] men and woman [sic] alike are converting to islam [sic] by the millions every year …”

    Other people, who are purportedly also Muslims, have written similar statements that I have read on the internet. Below is my personal response to such statements.

    A person who claims to be a Muslim and is living within a free society (like America) is able to benefit from life in that free society. Therefore, that person does not ever experience life under the full shari’a of true Islam. Such a person is living a fairy tale and is deceived about the true nature of Islam.

    A true Muslim is expected to imitate the life of Muhammad, as defined by the totality of the Qur’an, the Sira, and the Hadith, with all textual abrogations being fully considered.

    If a person claiming to be a Muslim in America were to truly imitate Muhammad in America, it would be treasonous and blatantly immoral, and the person would face imprisonment. Therefore, most people who claim to be Muslims in America simply cannot imitate the life of Muhammad in many ways, and are, therefore, not really Muslims. They are selecting only the portions of Islamic ideology that are currently palatable to a free society. That form of “cherry-picking” is not true Islam, and so they are not true Muslims. They are living a fairy tale.

    If a rational, unintimidated person in a free society claims to have voluntarily converted to Islam after previously closely following Jesus, the Messiah, the Christ, the Savior of the world, the good Shepherd, the Way, the Truth, the Life, then that person is deceived (uninformed) or lying. No rational, informed, unintimidated person in a free society would voluntarily try to imitate Muhammad’s later life of deep depravity after previously knowing Jesus personally and drawing near to Him and clinging to Him for refuge and strength.

    The later portion of the life of Muhammad and the life of Jesus are diametrically opposed to one another. Muhammad is dead and is useless to anyone; whereas Jesus the Savior of the world is very much alive and remains very strong forevermore, a rock and fortress for all those who trust Him and draw near to Him and cling to Him.

    It is not believable to say that rational, informed, unintimidated people in free societies voluntarily convert from closely following Jesus to truly imitating Muhammad. Rational people convert to following Muhammad only through deception and intimidation, both of which are intrinsic to Islam.

    Muhammad was deceived and he was a deceiver, and he gave his followers permission to deceive other people in order to further the cause of Islam. No one should follow or imitate Muhammad. He turned out to be a terrible role model. His life became a mess.

    An inquirer must examine the whole life of Muhammad, as defined by the Islamic trilogy — Qur’an, Sira, Hadith — while considering all textual abrogations. The Qur’an is not sufficient to define Islam or Muhammad. Anyone who points to the Qur’an alone to prove something about Islam is ignorant about Islam or is practicing deception.

    Jesus the Savior never deceived anyone or advocated deception, because Jesus the Messiah, the Christ is the Truth. There is only one Truth. I urge you to run far, far, far away from Muhammad and run straight to Jesus for the rest of your life and cling to Him. He is the only one who is able to impart to you life eternal and freedom from bondage.

  15. molarico
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    Like Dr. Warner,I have read many of those hisory books,too.I would like to add to the debate my own observation of Islam. After the Arabs invaded Persia ,they massacred hundreds of thousands of people who didn’t want to abandon their own Zorastrian religion. Caliphs and his soldiers looted and striped the nation bear from its assets to builds Mosques and other Islamic centres.But this wasn’t all,neither it was enough.
    Arabs Caliphs gradually repatriated hundreds of thousands of his ordinary Arab families into Persian cities with cooler climate and fertile soil ,kicking out the people from their ancestral lands.But this still was not enough.Omayyad Caliphs ordered that these migrating Arabs to be distinguished and be respected from ordinary Persians,who he thought to be inferior,because they were not Arabs,by wearing or displaying green coloured materials.They had to be respected and to be addressed as Said,which means gentleman,and given preferential treatments.This custom still is practised in Iran. When I was a kid,my parents used to tell me that it is Halaal to kill Kafar(non-muslims) and I was constantly reminded not to come in contact with Jews and Armainians,who were Christians. Those Kaafars were wounderful people when I got to know them.More civilized than us,Muslims.A while ago,I saw the video clip of Sufi’s temple on fire ,after the attack by intolerables,Shia ‘s muslims. This an attack by Muslims on Muslims.”you have your religon and I have mine” as Dr. Warner said.

  16. Ralph
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    I remain undecided about whether the person who has been writing as “A Muslim Convert” might actually be a non-Muslim impersonator comedian who is using extreme exaggeration to try to point out the absurdity of some of true Islamic ideology.

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    A Contrast of Leadership:

    Muhammad purportedly gave his followers permission to use lying and other forms of deception in order to advance the cause of Islam. You should not trust Muhammad at all, because he was a deceiver and he advocated deception.

    Jesus the Christ, the Messiah, the Savior of the world, the Light of the world, the Way, the Truth, the Life, the good Shepherd never gave his followers permission to use lying or other forms of deception in order to advance the cause of the kingdom of heaven, which is not an earthly kingdom — not a political kingdom. Jesus plainly said, “My kingdom is not of this world.” Some purported followers of Jesus have used lying and other forms of deception to try to advance the kingdom of heaven, but Jesus did not advocate or sanction it; and such people are acting entirely on their own when they are dishonest. I trust Jesus the Savior, because He Himself was not a deceiver and because He did not advocate deception.

    Will you trust Muhammad, or will you instead trust Jesus the Savior? That is a crucial question for this life and for eternity.

  17. Steffen Larsen
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    I’m sorry, Convert – well, I’m not sorry, not really – but this joke of yours is getting a bit thin: no one in his right mind will present himself/herself as being so colossally stupid as you are.
    I’ve come across the odd silly supremacist jewhating kaffir-despising fool from time to time, but now you are pushing it too hard. It is no longer even remotely believable.
    Nice try, but as I wrote already: fake or fool, your presentation is despicable.

  18. A muslim Convert
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    I can’t beleive what this 3 stooges have written here , namely
    Steffen Larsen
    Ralph
    Hellbat44

    Stefen , my point is not worh refuting becasue the truth is too hard for you to take. Look around and don’t be a frog in the well and say the sky is round.
    Until you also realised that IMENE and Micheal are telling absolute truth , you will forever be in darkness.

    Bill Warner hinself states himself that facts with numbers so call statistic is irrefutable. It is no secrects that many millions of white ex-christians men and woman alike are converting to islam by the millions every year. This it self is compelling evidence that ISLAM is the truth. I am sure these millions of ex -whites now being arabised are not fools. They are educated just like you..they bother to search the truth about ISLAM and once found ..nothing can stop him/her being arabised and become muslim. By the year 2050 …Europe will be completely muslim and arabised. There is no turning back..THE END EUROPE welcome EURABIA.

    We are now going full force against the final bastions of western civilisations and that is USA .The final nail is coming very soon when OBAMA and Clinton goes 2nd terrm. ALLAH is on our side and surely and CERTAINTY ..USA will be called UNITED STATES of ISLAM. All those not converted..Please know your fate….Bill warner will advised you.

    I am not scaring you, we shall obey the full extend of koran and hadith…since it is the word of ALLAH.. we are command to obey and execute its laws. If our IMANS ans Shieks/clerics says slay all kafirs.. then inshiallah , it will be done.for the grace of allah.
    All church will be convert to mosque, muslim shall be the sole owner of this country and all non-muslim properties be givern to muslim and those that convert can keep their property. And also, ISLAM allow us to have 4 wives , we will have to take some of your daughters and be wives so that we can propogate ISLAM people all over USA , …So the reason I convert becasue as I have said before…Man by nature are evil and pure EVIL. ISLAM allows us to act our natural way of being what nature wants us to be..

    islam IS SO ENTICING cos it teaches us to hate jews and xtians
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcVkBYo5SI

    No one country and idea have ever defeated the JEWS ..I beleive it was allah KORAN AND HADITH that shall be the so call The final Solution what HITLER and all those before him failed to do… Though I play no part in this..we muslim beleive ALLAH will guide the MUSLIM in victories against the JEWS…we are winning day by day… I don;t want to write too much..My earlier facts is answers that no one here not even Bill can refute it.
    Thoug I think not many muslim will be in this filthy rubbish sides, the reader who is a kafir will find it hard to swallow what the the trends is heading…It only shows how ISLAM is advancing without the SWORD. This is MIRACLE and only the TRUTH ALLAH can initate it.. where was JESUS? where was buddhist ? Where was Hindu?? ZERO. christians is losing so much per day at least 400,000 per day….where did they go..ISLAM of course…so convert if you are a man..ISLAM is very benificial for man..Thrust me.. When I convert I have full controlled my evilness and all woman are under my command unlike liberated western woman who screams and yell at us like bitch. …Many western woman MARRIED a muslim becasue they wanted to be trested like sex slaves…and we are fulfillling their desires….It is a win win situation…Be a MUSLIM and lives the way NATURE wants you to be…A BEAST.

  19. Hellbat44
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    AMERICAN WARTIME DEFENSE INITIATIVES

    To protect our Constitution and American way of life, America desperately needs bold new leadership in Washington, not four more years of the seditious and treasonous Obama Administration that is destroying the fabric of our exceptional nation.

    The sooner Americans wake up and realize that Muslims are not in America to assimilate into our country; rather, they are here using stealth jihad to dominate America” the sooner America can win the war against our Islamic enemies at home and abroad.

    Under the Romney Administration, and in concert with our Western friends and allies abroad, America must prosecute a relentless, sustained, and unconditional war against Islam worldwide on all fronts, in order to once-and-for-all drive a stake through the heart of the totalitarian ideology of Islam, by way of the following wartime defense initiatives:

    – Mobilize America on a wartime footing under the War Powers Act, not unlike what America did to fight Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in World War II.

    – Outlaw both Islamic Sharia law and Islamic Jihad

    – Prohibit the construction of new mosques or repairs of any kind to existing mosques; forbid Muslims from praying openly in the public or in public buildings; and forbid all mosques from sounding ‘the call to prayer’ on outdoor loudspeakers. According to Vijay Kumar in his 2011 article, The Muslim Mosque: A State Within a State, “In every instance where Islam has conquered and “destroyed utterly” a nation or civilization, the key to the conquest was the establishment of mosques, which are political and military command and control centers for Islam, and which all point toward the seat of Islamic power: the Kaaba.” A mosque in the United States is a command and control center of a foreign political and military state that seeks the overthrow of our government, and an Imam in a mosque is a political and military representative of a foreign state that calls for the overthrow of the United States. The laws of the United States provide specific criminal penalties for sedition and treason. These laws are not only applicable to those advocating and calling for the overthrow of our Constitution and our government; they are applicable to anyone who gives “aid or comfort” to such declared enemies of the United States, or who “organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons” so engaged.”

    – Stop all legal immigration of Muslims into America. Muslims immigrating to America are not here to assimilate; rather, they are here to dominate and wage stealth jihad against America at all levels. Muslims, in partnership with the Muslim Brotherhood, have stated their intentions to destroy our democracy, our Constitution, our American way of life, and replace it with Islamic Sharia law.

    – Refuse entry of any Muslim into the U.S., no matter the reason. Stop issuing U.S. visas (e.g. B1/B2 tourist visas, F1 student visas, H1B work visas, etc.) to Muslims wishing to travel to the U.S. and immediately revoke all existing non-expired U.S. visas that have been previously issued to Muslims.

    – Revoke the U.S. citizenship of every Muslim currently holding this privileged status, regardless of whether they reside in the U.S. or abroad. Encourage all Muslims residing in the U.S. to self-deport. Muslims who refuse to self-deport will be forced into a formalized ‘dhimmi’ status while residing in America.

    – Allow Muslim ‘dhimmis’ to practice only the peaceful “religious” components of Islamic theology as outlined in the Meccan Koran, not the violent “political” components of the Medina Koran.

    – Revoke the Legal Permanent Resident status of those non-citizen Muslims currently legally residing within the United States who are holding “green cards.” Those Muslims who choose to continue to reside in the U.S. will be issued a new Legal Permanent Dhimmi Card (“dhimmi card”) with the understanding that it may be revoked, at any time, should the Muslim not subjugate themselves under all ‘dhimmi’ laws.

    – All Muslim ‘dhimmis’ would be required to pay an additional 50% percent of their income (earned and unearned) to local city governments in the form of an annual ‘jizya’ payment to ensure that they feel appropriately ‘subdued.”

    – Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the right to vote in any city, state, or federal elections.

    – Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the opportunity to run for and/or hold any public or political office of any kind (especially a position of trust with access to sensitive or classified information). Muslims would not be allowed to serve in our military or any federal, state, or local positions of any kind within such organizations as, for example, the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the Drug Enforcement Agency, or any others. Those Muslims currently serving in positions within any organizations, whether public or private, would have their employment terminated immediately for reasons of national security.

    – Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the right to own land or real estate property anywhere in America.

    – Should a Muslim tire of being subjugated under their ‘dhimmi’ status, they will be afforded an opportunity to self-deport or become an apostate from Islam. Apostates would be allowed to re-apply for a path to U.S. citizenship, would no longer be required to pay the ‘jizya,’ would be allowed to vote, would be allowed to own property, and enjoy all of the other benefits of being a law abiding American citizen.

    – Begin a massive re-education program in America to ensure that all Americans understand the true nature of Islam and the existential threat is poses to America. Rewrite and republish all educational textbooks in America to tell the unvarnished truth about Islam, not the sugarcoated and propagandized version that exists today. Promote and subsidize the excellent work of American patriots such as Bill Warner, Robert Spencer, and Pamela Geller, and many others.

    – Ensure that the FBI has full and sweeping powers and authority to monitor (surveillance, wiretapping, etc.) all mosque activities, all written materials available in mosques, to monitor all financial transactions, and as a matter of policy the FBI should investigate all Imams and any and/or all Muslims attending any mosque to look for indications of sedition and treason against the U.S. and our Constitution.

    – Shutdown, investigate, and confiscate the assets of all Muslim Brotherhood front groups and their members such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Islamic Circle of North America (ISNA), the Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA), Muslim Students Association (MSA), the North American Imams Federation (NAIF), and hundreds of others that are currently operating in the U.S. All Islamic Internet propaganda sites such as http://www.loonwatch.com, http://www.whyislam.org, http://www.cair.com, and many others within the jurisdiction of U.S. law would be shut down and assets confiscated and their employees investigated by the FBI as well.

    – Close down, by force if necessary, all Islamic training camps and compounds where Muslim Americans train to wage jihad against America. Have the FBI investigate all members of these compounds. These camps, such as those run by The Muslims of America (MOA), are numerous and have been part of a secret decades-long program by MOA to train a jihadi army within the United States.

    – Begin a concerted program to become energy independent using our own natural resources as well as our Western friends and allies abroad such as Canada. Begin to wean America off of Middle Eastern oil with the express goal of stopping all purchases of oil from any Middle Eastern Islamic country. This will stop the billions (trillions?) of petro-dollars originating from the U.S. from flowing into countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran who are using these terror-dollars to finance their promotion of Islam and terrorism around the world. Again, make it a priority to develop our own energy reserves at home and with our Canadian neighbor to the north.

    – Stop all financial aid/support to any Islamic country such as Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, and all others (for obvious reasons). In conjunction with our Western friends and allies abroad, place severe economic sanctions and embargo all Islamic countries.

    – Protect and support Israel, our longtime friend and ally, from Islamic jihad and stop the Islamic Republic of Iran from getting nuclear weapons, by force if necessary.

    – Withdraw U.S. membership and funding within United Nations (UN) as it has become a mouthpiece and forum against the West primarily by the 56-member Organization of Islamic Cooperation (Conference) and the Palestinian Authority to wage jihad against the West. Move the UN headquarters outside of the U.S. to some god-forsaken Third World failed state such as Somalia or Sudan.

  20. Ralph
    |

    If I ever meet a stranger who tells me that 2+2=5, and the shape of our earth is flat, and our earth’s moon is made from cheese, then I will immediately know that the stranger is ignorant about some basic facts — the stranger doesn’t understand some truths.

    At that point, I might not yet understand why the stranger is ignorant about these basic facts — I might not yet know the reason for the stranger not understanding these truths.

    If I can determine that the stranger is mentally capable of understanding these truths and is only uninformed, then I can emulate a kind, patient, caring teacher and attempt to educate the person by first asking questions such as, “Why do you believe that 2+2=5? Why do you believe that the shape of our earth is flat? Why do you believe that our earth’s moon is made from cheese? Please explain your rationale to me.” It would be very fair for me to ask those questions. It would even be kind for me to ask those questions, because the stranger might thereby be able to progressively gain understanding of more factual truths about many more things over time.

    By asking such direct questions of the stranger, I might be able to start a meaningful dialogue and cultivate the stranger’s critical-thinking skills that would eventually enable the stranger to reach an understanding of these truths. But building critical-thinking skills might take considerable time, depending upon the background of the stranger.

    If the stranger had previously been educated by domineering teachers through rote memorization in a continuously-threatening, fear-filled environment, then the stranger might possess no critical-thinking skills at all. In that case, it would be necessary for me to provide a long-term learning environment that is non-threatening, relaxed, open-minded, and filled with only truth.

    With that background, I will now kindly pose a few questions to the people who currently adhere to the full ideology of Islam, as exemplified in the full life of Muhammad, as documented in the full contents of the Qur’an, the Sira, and the Hadith.

    1) Why do you believe that Muhammad, with all of his fully-documented moral failings, is purportedly the perfect role model for you to emulate during your lifetime?

    When answering this question, please remember that many hundreds of years before Muhammad was born, Jesus the Messiah (the Christ) plainly explained and clearly demonstrated to many people over a period of several years in full public view that He alone is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

    Jesus the Savior of the world was witnessed by many people to have been crucified by Roman soldiers until He was fully dead, to have been placed fully dead in a tomb, and then to have been raised to life while possessing a glorified, resurrected body. After His resurrection from the dead, He was seen alive and heard by hundreds of eyewitnesses in large and small groups of people over more than five weeks of time. That number of eyewitnesses is sufficient evidence in a court of law.

    During His several years of public ministry before He was crucified, Jesus the Christ nobly healed people of their diseases, forgave them of their sins, restored life to them after death, set them free from demonic bondage, fed them, loved them, gave His life for them, and now lives forevermore to make completely whole those who trust Him and cling to Him.

    2) Why do you believe that knowing about the life and utterances of Muhammad and making a positive confession about the prophet-hood of Muhammad purportedly are requirements for everyone in the world?

    When answering this question, please remember that every noble thing — that Muhammad might ever have done or uttered — had many hundreds of years earlier already been lived far more nobly by Jesus the Messiah and his followers; and had already been written far more consistently and truthfully in the available Hebrew scriptures and in the available eyewitness gospels and epistles of the apostles and other followers of Jesus the Christ, the Messiah, the Savior of the world.

    In his most noble moment, Muhammad contributed nothing new to what had already been lived and uttered far more nobly many hundreds of years earlier by Jesus and his followers. In its most noble written portions, the written utterances of Muhammad contribute no new truth to what is already available in the Hebrew and Christian scriptures, both of which are currently available to anyone in a free society who earnestly desires to look at them.

    3) Why do you believe that Muhammad purportedly was a greater bearer of truth than Jesus the Christ, the Messiah, the Savior of the world?

    When answering this question, please remember that only Muhammad himself was available to bear witness to Muhammad. He was the only one who could bear witness that he himself was the bearer of truth. That is not sufficient evidence in a court of law. Bearing witness to oneself does not provide convincing evidence. There is no reason to believe that Muhammad’s utterances are truth — except for Muhammad’s own testimony about his own prophet-hood. Muhammad’s own self-assertions about his own prophet-hood are extremely pale when compared with the bold proofs of authenticity that Jesus the Messiah presented during His several years of public ministry.

    4) Why do you believe that the compiled fragmented writings that are attributed to Muhammad’s utterances purportedly should be worthy of superseding the original Hebrew scriptures and the original gospels and epistles that are attributed to the eyewitness apostles of Jesus and Jesus’ other followers?

    When answering this question, please remember that Muhammad’s claim about the purported superiority of his own documented utterances versus the purported inferiority of abundantly-available and reliable Hebrew and Christian scriptures is solely Muhammad’s individual testimony — his individual claim — which is unsupported by the facts which Muhammad either ignored or did not know.

    Muhammad alone was able to bear witness about the validity of his own utterances, and that is not sufficient evidence in a court of law. Muhammad has no other witnesses except himself that his utterances are worthy of superseding the abundant and reliable copies of the Hebrew scriptures and the gospels and epistles of the apostles and other followers of Jesus the Messiah. Muhammad’s claims about his own prophetic legitimacy are unsupported by independently-authenticated factual testimony.

    5) Why do you purportedly admit that Jesus was one of Islam’s prophets, while at the same time you completely ignore what Jesus clearly said and you completely ignore what Jesus’ eyewitness apostles and other followers clearly said about Him?

    When answering this question, please remember that Jesus plainly claimed to be the Way, the Truth, the Life, and He backed up His claim by continuous proofs over a period of several years of public ministry. He did not claim to be a way, a truth, a life. You must either follow Jesus the Messiah and draw near to Him and cling to Him and trust Him, or you must reject Him. There are only two choices. You can’t have both Muhammad and Jesus. Jesus told the people around Him that a person is either with Him or against Him. There is no middle ground.

    Please compare the documented life and utterances of Muhammad as found in the Qur’an and Sira and Hadith versus the documented life and utterances of Jesus the Savior as faithfully documented through abundant, reliable, and consistent copies of the gospel and epistle writings of the eyewitness apostles and other followers of Jesus the Messiah. In its brightest moments, Muhammad’s life was only a cheap imitation of the noble life of Jesus the Savior.

    6) Do you believe that Muhammad heard and understood the truth of Jesus the Messiah, the Savior during his lifetime, during his many close encounters with followers of Jesus the Savior? If so, do you believe that Muhammad rejected the truth of Jesus the Christ that he heard spoken by those followers of Jesus? Similarly, do you believe that Muhammad rejected the truth of Jesus the Christ that he encountered in the form of written scriptures possessed by followers of Jesus?

    When answering these questions, please remember that according to Islamic documents, many followers of Jesus the Messiah did not submit to Islam and were consequently murdered under violent jihad. Many followers of Jesus have historically boldly verbally testified to the truth of Jesus before execution by those who hated them for being followers of Jesus.

    If I am ever about to be executed because I am a follower of Jesus the Messiah, I will boldly testify to the full truth of Jesus the Savior to everyone within earshot. The only thing that will silence me is physical death.

    I urge you to run far, far, far away from Muhammad and run to Jesus the Savior. Muhammad is quite dead, and he can do nothing to help you now or in the future. Muhammad is not worth following and he is not worth imitating. Muhammad is irrelevant now when considering the noble merits and the essential truth of Jesus the Savior; and Muhammad will continue to remain irrelevant throughout eternity.

    Jesus the Messiah is very much alive, and He is very strong, and He is able to save forevermore all those who draw near to Him and trust Him and cling to Him.

    The choice for you is either Muhammad or Jesus the Christ. The choice is clear. Do the right thing. Leave the cheap imitation behind and cling to Jesus the Savior, the only one who can impart to you life eternal, and the only one whose truth can set you free from bondage.

  21. Steffen Larsen
    |

    muslim Convert: your deeply unpleasant effusions stand alone. They need no comment, they are not worthy a second glance.

    Imene: you really are writing several untruths here. Merely because Mr Warner does not agree with you does not make him ignorant in the eyes of sensible people. Your argument does not hold: it is not a sign of ignorance to refuse Islam. A proper research is not necessarily on agreeing with islam. And no religion demonstrates a tendency towards aggressions against unbelievers and other faiths as does islam on a daily basis. We can take it for granted that Mr Warner has read the Quran, the Hadith etc …..and in short, you are talking nonsense, I’m sorry to say.

    Michael: Racist? Please explain. How is criticizing political Islam “racism”? Is it merely the usual sly accusation – often in company with “islamophobia” – to put the stance against political islam on par with a psychopathic malaise? How would you describe the supremacist muslim Convert above?

  22. Hellbat44
    |

    AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY DEFENSE INITIATIVE

    According to Andrew C. McCarthy in his 2010 bestselling book “The Grand Jihad, How Islam and the Left Sabotage America,” Hussein Obama is “a pseudo-Christian, anti-semitic, anti-American, neocommunist, marxist, nihilist, Fifth Columnist, Islamic apologist, and learned to perfect his hatred for America and his racism against the “white folk” for 20 years in Reverend Jeremiah Wright’s Black Liberation Theology church in Chicago, Illinois. His goals are the subverting and supplanting American political, economic, and cultural values.” He is doing this by teaming up with the liberal left and the Muslim Brotherhood to destroy America from within. Obama must be defeated at the ballot box on November 6th…she cannot survive another four years of this quisling.

    I propose that America, in concert with her Western friends and allies abroad, should prosecute a relentless, sustained, and unconditional war against Islam worldwide to preemptively defend the American homeland by implementing the following homeland defense initiatives:

    
- Immediately stop all legal immigration of Muslims into America. We know that Muslims immigrating to America are not here to assimilate; rather, they are here to dominate and wage stealth jihad against us at some level, with the express and stated intention to eventually destroy our democracy, our Constitution, our American way of life, and replace it with Islamic Sharia law.

    
- Immediately refuse entry of any Muslim into the U.S. for any reason. Stop issuing U.S. visas (e.g. B1/B2 tourist visas, F1 student visas, H1B work visas, etc.) to Muslims wishing to travel to the U.S. (for whatever reason) and immediately revoke all existing valid U.S. visas that have been issued to Muslims.


    – Strip U.S. citizenship from every U.S. Muslim citizen who currently holds this privileged status, regardless of whether they reside in the U.S. or abroad. Encourage all Muslims residing in the U.S. to self-deport. Those Muslims who refuse to self-deport, will be forced into a documented ‘dhimmi’ status while residing in America. The choice would be theirs, either self-deportation or ‘dhimmitude.’


    – Revoke the Legal Permanent Resident (“green cards”) status of those Muslims currently residing within the United States. Those Muslims who choose to continue to reside in the U.S. will be issued a new Legal Permanent Resident card (“dhimmi card”) with the understanding that it may be revoked, at any time, should the Muslim not subjugate themselves under all ‘dhimmi’ laws. Should a Muslim tire of being subjugated under their ‘dhimmi’ status, they will be afforded an opportunity to volunteer to leave Islam as an ‘apostate’ and peacefully join the ranks of the non-Muslims where they will be allowed to re-apply for U.S. citizenship, where they will no longer have to pay the ‘jizya,’ they will be allowed to vote, own property, and enjoy all of the other benefits of being an American citizen that are not extended to those Muslims subjugated under the ‘dhimmi’ status.

    
- In addition to all standard local, state, and federal taxes, all Muslim ‘dhimmis’ would be required to pay an additional 50% percent of their income (earned and unearned) to local city governments in the form of an annual ‘jizya’ payment to ensure that they feel appropriately ‘subdued.”


    – Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the right to vote in any city, state, or federal elections.


    – Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the opportunity to run for and/or hold any public or political office of any kind (especially a position of trust with access to sensitive or classified information). Muslims would not be allowed to serve in our military or any federal, state, or local positions of any kind within (for example) the Department of Homeland Security, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, the Drug Enforcement Agency, etc. Those Muslims currently serving in positions within the aforementioned organizations, or others, would have their employment terminated immediately for reasons of national security (because it has been demonstrated too many times that their loyalty is ultimately only to Allah, not to the United States and protecting and defending our Constitution).

    – Deny any Muslim ‘dhimmi’ from being the supervisor of any non-Muslim regardless of their occupation or industry they are working.

    
- Deny Muslims the right to own land or real estate property anywhere in America.


    – Outlaw Islamic Sharia law and the Sixth Pillar of Islam – Jihad as written in the Islamic doctrine of “political Islam” (Think: Medina).


    – Allow Muslims to practice only the peaceful “religious” (abrogated) components of Islamic theology (Think: Mecca), NOT political Islam.

    
- Prohibit the construction of new mosques or repairs of any kind to existing mosques; forbid Muslims from praying openly in the public or in public buildings; and forbid all mosques from sounding ‘the call to prayer’ on outdoor loudspeakers. According to Vijay Kumar in his 2011 article, The Muslim Mosque: A State Within a State, “In every instance where Islam has conquered and “destroyed utterly” a nation or civilization, the key to the conquest was the establishment of mosques, which are political and military command and control centers for Islam, and which all point toward the seat of Islamic power: the Kaaba.” A mosque in the United States is a command and control center of a foreign political and military state that seeks the overthrow of our government, and an Imam in a mosque is a political and military representative of a foreign state that calls for the overthrow of the United States. The laws of the United States provide specific criminal penalties for sedition and treason. These laws are not only applicable to those advocating and calling for the overthrow of our Constitution and our government; they are applicable to anyone who gives “aid or comfort” to such declared enemies of the United States, or who “organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons” so engaged.”

    – Ensure that the FBI has full and sweeping powers to monitor (surveillance, wiretapping, monitoring phone calls, etc.) all mosque activities, all written materials available in mosques, to monitor all financial transactions, and as a matter of policy the FBI should investigate all Imams and any and/or all Muslims attending any mosque to look for indications of sedition and treason against the U.S. and our Constitution.


    – Begin a massive re-education program in America to ensure that all Americans understand the true nature of Islam and the existential threat is poses to America. Rewrite and republish all educational textbooks in America to tell the unvarnished truth about Islam, not the sugarcoated and propagandized version that exists today.
 Promote and subsidize the excellent work of American patriots such as Bill Warner, Robert Spencer, and Pamela Geller, and many others.

    – Shutdown, investigate, and confiscate the assets of all Muslim Brotherhood front groups and their members such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Islamic Circle of North America (ISNA), the Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA), Muslim Students Association (MSA), the North American Imans Federation (NAIF), and hundreds of others that are currently operating in the U.S. All Islamic Internet propaganda sites such as http://www.loonwatch.com, http://www.whyislam.org, http://www.cair.com, and many others within the jurisdiction of U.S. law would be shut down and assets confiscated and their employees investigated by the FBI as well.

    
- Close down, by force if necessary, all Islamic training camps and compounds where Muslim Americans train to wage jihad against America. Have the FBI investigate all members of these compounds. These camps, such as those run by The Muslims of America (MOA), are numerous and have been part of a secret decades-long program by MOA to train a jihadi army within the United States.


    – Stop all financial aid/support to any Islamic country such as Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, and all others (for obvious reasons). In conjunction with our Western friends and allies abroad, place severe economic sanctions and embargo all Islamic countries.


    – Begin a concerted program to become energy independent using our own natural resources as well as our Western friends and allies abroad such as Canada. Begin to wean America off of Middle Eastern oil with the express goal of stopping all purchases of oil from any Middle Eastern Islamic country. This will stop the billions (trillions?) of petro-dollars originating from the U.S. from flowing into countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran who are using these terror-dollars to finance their promotion of Islam and terrorism around the world. Again, make it a priority to develop our own energy reserves at home and with our Canadian neighbor to the north.

    
- Protect and support Israel, our longtime friend and ally, from Islamic jihad and stop the Islamic Republic of Iran from getting nuclear weapons, by force if necessary. Join forces with all world Western nations to form a coalition against Islam to begin, on all fronts, to roll back the gains Islamic forces have made over the last 20 years, especially in Western Europe.


    – Withdraw U.S. membership and funding within United Nations (UN) as it has become a mouthpiece and forum against the West primarily by the 56-member Organization of Islamic Cooperation (Conference) and the Palestinian Authority to wage jihad against the West. Move the UN headquarters outside of the U.S. to some god-forsaken Third World failed state such as Somalia or Sudan.


    The sooner Americans wake up and realize that Muslims are not in America to assimilate into our country; rather, they are here using stealth jihad to dominate America” the sooner America can win the war against our Islamic enemies at home and abroad.

  23. Michael
    |

    You come off as a flat-out racist. Readers of this should know that – maybe you should post a warning note. It’s sad that you can take an unsuspecting reader and lead them to stereotype a people they’ve never encountered before. You should be ashamed.

    I like your writing style, but unfortunately your content is ethnocentric.

  24. Imene
    |

    I am a Muslim woman, and i am proud of it…I would like to tell you one thing: don’t trust what an ignorant man, like Bill, tells you…I think that, before you judge Islam, you have to carry out a proper and deep research about it! I recommend you to read Coran, Hadith and books like “In the Footsteps of the Prophet, Lessons from the Life of Muhammad” by Tariq Ramadan.

    Islam is in fact a religion that promotes peace and understanding among people of all faiths, and it strongly prohibits all forms of violence and aggression against all people regardless of their faith or race.

    So, i wish that Allah shows you right from wrong, gives you light in order to find the truth, and guides you on the straight path.

  25. A muslim Convert
    |

    It has been a week and you know what…
    Not a single anti -Mulsim bigot refute what I have said in my last article.Not even the CHICKEN bill warner…A loser in Tennsesse…

    Is it becasue the truth is so hard to accept ?

    I can understand how you guys feel when one is helpless against all odds.

    The winners enjoys all the good things regardless of what he wins…A win is a win and comes with immense wealth.

    Why don’t all of you convert and be MUSLIM instead of trying to do the UNWINNABLE . Is like swimming uphill agianst the tirade of downstream water…

    People always like a winning side….Look closely evryday….Who is winning…Of course ISLAM…

    Please do the sensible thing becasue when we are the Majority…Don’t come complaining when your rights, freedom,etc…are taken away from you.
    Remember ..Only Muslim have rights, kafirs are either to be killed or pay the dhimmni so call Jizya tax…But we can’t killed all of you kafirs…we need to keep you alive so that you can be slaves dhimmins status and you shall be subjugated at the whims of our desire…If you have a beautiful daughter…I think i better stop here…You may ask Bill Wrner less you you hear it differerntly..I am sure the greeat BILL will tell you the best stories BETTHER than STEPHEN KING…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcVkBYo5SI

  26. Travis McGee
    |

    I like what Amit, Mohammed Ali and Hamid say. It will take these strong men and many others like them to warn weak minded American politicians and educate truly compassionate well meaning citizens.

    The dozen or more muslims I have known personally have been very friendly (but would never be real friends). Also, very hard working. But, some of the stories have lead me to an observation. The posts from these men and “A Muslim Convert” seem to confirm it.

    It seems that in practice, a “good” muslim is commanded to and will act out and permitted to act out every good and bad human act and emotion. Mostly known by how they treat kafirs(the rest of the world) when they have the upper hand in a situation. One example is the command to murder and homosexual necrophilial rape of “kafir” such as Chris Stevens, the U.S. ambassador to Libya.

    This is a powerful yet evil. It gives a person the obligation to act out the worst of their animal instincts. So disrespectful to themselves.

    It is why Soviet Communists directly supported Islamic groups to attain access and attempt to convert prisoners incarcerated in the US over the last 50 years. Pedophiles particularly attracted to the religion.

    Compelling to me is “A Muslim Convert” who posted this above:

    “Man by nature are evil and cannot be good. We are the most evil and clever living things made by nature. we can think and act base upon our reasoning. Goodness is a fallacy perpetuate by fantasy people who try to pervate nature by trying to impose good over evil..Let me tell you this..You will fail big time…”

    Any comments?

  27. paige
    |

    Great work, Mr.Warner. You are definitely a “warner”. Great article. The sad thing is that the officials, Obama and his lot, they know exactly what shariah and Islam is. All of this is being done on purpose. Scary times ahead. God bless you and America..

  28. Ralph
    |

    Jesus the Christ is the Savior of the world and the Light of the world, and He is alive forevermore. Everyone, including Muhammad, will appear before Christ’s judgment seat.

    Whenever any person rejects Jesus the Christ as the Savior of the world and Light of the world, the only thing left for that person is darkness — which is precisely why radical Muslims are immersed in such deep darkness. They have rejected the light of Christ.

    Only the truth of the gospel of Jesus the Christ can break through that deep darkness and set radical Muslims and everyone else free. There is no other means that can restore light to such pervasive darkness. There is no human weapon that can defeat such darkness.

    We must fervently pray that the light of the gospel of Jesus the Christ will shine brightly upon everyone who is immersed in darkness, and that hardened hearts will be softened and healed around the world.

  29. Mohammed Ali
    |

    it is a dream of all Muslim to concur the world and spread Sharia . No respect to other religions unless became under Islam control .
    Make sure to protect yours values of human right and free speech of Islam .
    Muslim pray that Allah will destroy Kafir and take their Woman and children slaves. Saudi government some months ago prevent this pray of Mosques !!

    I am an Arab who once was Muslim so i knew throug living as muslim that Mr bill is speaking true about Islam .

  30. A muslim Convert
    |

    Well , it seems many of you have rebuked me as usual kafirs always do.

    Ok..base on Bill and all of you who likes to present facts without looking at both sides comes to silly conclusions

    Since you want to base on FACTS ..Then I will show you as it is.

    a) Every year , millions of white kafirs convert to ISLAM. This is a FACTS .

    b) More white woman convert to ISLAM than any ISLAM by birth. This is the surest death of the west as your woman genarations have becomes like us and we will wipe off thier ancestor of their ancestor of whom they aere before.

    c) ISLAM is everywhere on this earth and confrims the BIBLE that ISLAM will be spread all over the 4 corners of the EARTH where xtainity is declining in a downward spiral of NO RETURN. Look at Europe…Not s single white people goes to CHURCH…while mosque are mushroom everywhere by the thousands as I am typing this.

    d) ISLAM is now the only religion that is promoted all over the world.Remenber Bush and Blair famous speech…” Islam is peace ” This 2 great man are now in the annals of islamic folklore that said the TRUTH.

    e) All media from BBC, CNN, FOX,NY times, Times Magazines, reuters, AP,..ALL main news are now promoting ISLAM worldwide with positive good things about ISLAM. Are you implying that these people ..your own kind who arre well scolled don’t know what they are talking?

    f) OBAMA and Hillary Clinton are the greatest USA leadership even since the foudung of USA. These 2 person single handlely change USA from xtainity to SHARIIAH USA. and like I said before, OBAMA will be elcted 2nd term.. So get used to it.His final term will compllete what millions of MUSLIM have been trying to do..To take over the west and enshribe THE SHARIAH upon USA. We have ..I mean it is a DONE DEAL that EUROPE cannot recover to its western model ever again just like the BYZANTINE lose its empire to us ..The great MUSLIM.

    g) Our ISLAMIC banking systems is now in full steam to replace the western model of banking. …As the saying goes..Whoever have the money ..do the talking..We will controlled the WROLD finiacne and all money will be spend to islamised the world. Nobody can stop us.

    h) After years of infiltrating the western people so called LIBERALS.. we have successfully indoctrinated your youth during the 80’s where we finiance bright young liberals that we predicted will becomes leaders of the western world. Now there are in all MAJOR civil services and powerful politicians to set up pro islamic doctrine in USA in THE NAME of diverisity.. We have you all folled and the best part is you guys don’t EVEN know. Even if you guys knows it..you cannot speak against it in public..becasue as I said before, we have you liberals working for us and they don’t even know it. They help us to ENACT terms like HATE SPEECH, ISLAMOPHOBIA, RACIST, BIGOT,etc…Bill..you hear this..You are hate speech ..and when OBAMA pass the bill ti criminalised this activity, it will be the final stroke of the PEN that killed the WEST. it will happen and there is nothing ANYONE here can do about it.

    i) We have infiltrate your HARVARD, OXFORD, CANBRIDGE, STANDFORN, UCLA,,all the major tiop schools in the west and implant islamcic doctrine in your school curricullum and we ahve the money to advertisedall the GOOD things about ISLAM to your youth..It has been working very well and your kids are ready to be islamasied when they grew up.

    J) We have force all major food manufactures from NESLTE, KRAFT, Macdonals, KFC, campbell soups, EVERY food to be label HALAL…This is to ensure that we ahve subconciously ingrained the kafirs that they can becone MUSLIM more easily as they have been halal all the while. The ALCOHOL thing will be abolised when shariah comes into effect..

    k) Killing of kafirs on a daily basis has becomes a norm and we have succefully carried this out without condemnation from the world..REMEMER ..hate speech, islamophbia…you see..we have it all prepared and you still in your bed… No BILL WARNER can ever stop this. No pamella gellar. no robert spencer, no geet weelders, no EDL, no SIOA, no faithfreedom. no ALI SINA..no LAN WEST, no MICHEAL SAVAGE, no JIHAD WATCH, no NOTHING can stop us MUSLIM..Get over with it.

    We are in TOTAL control of everything you can ever imagine..Our 30 years of hard work has finally paid off. You think this can happen by msulim alone..This is THE GREATEST MIRACLE of ISLAM and only ALLAH can do made this happen..Where was the xtian goid, the yahweh, the budha , the SIVA..the whatever…ZERO if you know what I mean…This is FACTS people and shaft it up your FACE….Bitter pill to swallow right…

    Well , swallow it and CONVERT less you and you decendaents will not what to go thru what south sudan, coptics, armenians, south thailand, south philiine, souther russia, pakistan, indonesia, east timor, lebanon, Nigeria, irawi xtains, Hindus, western cHINA, ..too many to count..goes through day and night.. It will happen surely in USA..ask the EUROPEAN..hear PAT CONDELL talking and trembling to deaf ears..

    So convert and may ALLAH guide you to your heart DESIRE.

    Koran 8 verse 12 for you to read and learn or below you tube

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXcVkBYo5SI

  31. waltj
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    @Carlota: I hear you loud and clear on this one. It’s exactly the same as Muslim men saying it’s a woman’s fault she got raped because she was dressed “provocatively”, i.e., not covered from head to toe with a burlap sack. Hey Muslim guys, got a news flash for you: You CAN control your impulses. Really, just try it sometimes. It does work. We’ve been doing it for centuries. Or if someone desecrates a Koran or insults your prophet? You have a choice. You don’t have to act like a bunch of assholes. And a fair warning to you: not all of us are as weak-kneed and cowardly as our politicians and intellectual elitists.

  32. Carlota
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    Yes, less than 5% of muslims are radical. The problem is that moderate muslims support what radicals do. I have my own example of that. I lived in Pakistan for a while and have some pakistani and egyptian friends on facebook. They are as “westernized” as any muslim can be, intelligent people, with college education. Anyway, I checked their facebook page to see what they were commenting on the new “muslim rage”.´Some don´t say anything, some are supporting these islam acts. NONE of them are recriminating these acts. So, I posted on my facebook wall a link about budhists being killed by a muslim mob. Now, wait a minute, if anyone posted about some bad act of my goverment or religion, I would comment by apologizing, saying that it does not represent most of us, that i´m embaressed by my representative behavour (as I did when some of my italian friends posted abt Brazil giving asylum to a italian terrorist, which was an atrocious act of a corrupted politician). Anyhow, that´s the least what you expect right? Well, not really when it come to muslims. The response I got on the news that muslims were killing budhists was “too bad, because islam is the religion of peace. You westerns have to understand that we are very upset and angry”. Disregarding the lack of basic logic on stating “too bad -that we are killing people- because we are very peaceful”, the main point here is that the radicals have support of the rest of the population. We tend to think in an western way, as in my case, one corrupted politian made a unilateral decision that our population had no control over (the same as Hillary´s awful response to the muslim riots, almost apologizing for your 1st ammendment that I´m sure didn´t represent 90% of americans opinion on the matter). But it´s not their case, it´s very very different. They have a book, that they all follow, that says it is ok, if not the duty, of a good muslim to kill and deceive in honor of Muhhamad. It´s very different situation, these acts are backed up by their own constitution – the Coran – and by islamic nations most deep beliefs. We´ve got to understad this.

  33. Bill
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    On the way to you by email

  34. waltj
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    As with anything on the Internet, I don’t know if “Convert” is real or not, but the mindset he describes accurately reflects much of the behavior I’ve seen in observant Muslims, although most are not so straightforward about it. Perhaps it’s his evident lack of English language skills. Whatever. His description is a perfect illustration of why Islam appeals so much to psychopaths like Mike Tyson and Jose Padilla. It essentially legitimizes the worst characteristics of a 7th Century brigand, and calls it religion.

  35. Jacob
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    @Muslim Convert…Muhammad was a murderer,liar,pedophile,plunderer and must be denounced,and ridiculed as such daily.Muslims can come up with is Muhammad, a murderous, bloodthirsty, bigoted child rapist who has caused a constant campaign of death, terror, bloodshed, slavery, torture and pain since he heard voices in a cave, to the 21st century with the help of his brainwashed followers.
    I found out everything I needed to know about Islam from the man they emulate, if I want another opinion I ask the apostates of Islam, who brave punishment and certain death when they decide to leave the cult of Islam.

    Your attempt at Taqiyya is a waste of time on your part.

    I will never convert to your ridiculous cult. I would rather go to war than live under Islam! Death to Islam!

  36. Jim Clendennen
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    I watched your Utube Video “Why we fear Islam” You said you would send the powerpoint slides if requested by email. Couldn’t find your email address. Would like to have the slides so I could get a presentation up. I have been telling this story for years without getting anyone to connect the dots. Very frustrating. Your presentation brings it all together. Please how do I get the slides?

  37. Hamid
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    Congratulations muslim convert!! So now you are a muslim? Wow!! I’m not impressed. Based upon the contents (or lack of rational content) of your earlier posts you seem to be just another in a long line of ignorant and misguided brain-dead zombie recruits for the islam. So, what is this ideology you find so wonderful? It is a violent supremacist totalitarian ideology of hatred, bigotry, racism, misogyny, pedophilia, terrorism, slavery, antisemitism, domination, subjugation, and stupidity based on a 7th Century retard named muhammad (shit be upon him) and a tribal moon god named allah (shit be upon him too) that islam claims is the only god of our universe. Sure didn’t take you long to write in to Mr. Larsen with your threats and rants did it? With all of your hatred, you seem to be fitting right in to this death cult, aren’t you?? Oh damn, did I blasphemy you, allah (more shit be upon him), and your boy muhammad (extra helping of shit be upon him too)? Are you feeling left out? How about some shit be upon you too muslim convert? Feeling better now???

  38. A muslim Convert
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    Mr Steffen Larsen

    Please do not insult me a new convert or you will end up real mess. Our great caliphathe , the OIC have succesuly persuade UN to made Blashphemy a crime punishable by death. Only Islam can insult all non-muslim and not the other way around.

    Reader may ask,,,why ?
    Firstly , we are correct and thus like father to his children , we can punish our child if they do not obey.

    Maybe 1 time for failing to obey, we cane, but habitually , then the punishment is harsher. So in ISLAM , it is us who are rigfhteous and thus by the grace of ALLAH , we are tyring to made the world islamic , but the kafirs refused and yet blashemy ALLAH. ..So for world peace, UN must enforce blashephy law. I hope OBAMA elected to 2 term and he will usher and hasten the islaimc doctrination of USA and thus complete our goal of forcing the SATAN USA to its knees…Then we will come for the orientals, then the polynesians, etc.. ..all human being will be force to convert..made no mistake about this.. I suggest reader either you convert now and ensure your children will not suffer the beheading for those who do not convert. Do you realsied that beheading is 2nd nature to us?

    We already made NESTLE, KFC, KRAFT,MACDOMALS,..etc…all food to be HALAL….I suggest you understand HALAL and why this is the first steps to ISLAMISED and shariah a society…

    I suggest you watch on you tube how we slaughter animals for food…The way we slaughter the animasl is actalluly a traning on how to behead kafir….please visit website and watch this video…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_hSg-npPnw

    I embrace ISLAM becasue as per my first mail, I enjoy evil and ISLAM allowed me that.

    ISLAM is pure and benefits mankind, ..We have made europe bend to its knees,,you think USA is different, OBMAMA was the greates PRESIDENT OF USA and a true muslim that will promise a new order..we are naming the United States of ISLAM..

    Mark myt words, OBAMA will win this 2nd term…so that ISLAMIC will consumed the earth by the policy of USA that is pro ISLAM by OBAMA.

  39. Sunil Bajpai
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    Kindly read the following article which can clarify many issues:

    http://sunilthethinker.blogspot.in/2012/09/tripodframework.html

    Regards,
    Sunil Bajpai

  40. Steffen Larsen
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    If the “muslim Convert” here above is real – and I rather suspect it is a fraud to make Muslims seem stupider and more primitively supremacist than is fair – it only reinforces all opposition to Islam and the introduction of Sharia. Either way the writer is obnoxious.

  41. A muslim Convert
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    To all reader,

    In the name of ALLAH (PBUH)..

    Plesase do not read nor agrree with Bill Warner , Why ?

    I am a new convert from kafir to muslim. why you may ask ?

    Simple reason.. Here it is..

    Man by nature are evil and cannot be good. We are the most evil and clever living things made by nature. we can think and act base upon our reasoning. Goodness is a fallacy perpetuate by fantasy people who try to pervate nature by trying to impose good over evil..Let me tell you this..You will fail big time…

    Lets look at this example , Many countries and civilixations are trying to instill goodness in every religion from xtians, hindus, buddhist, janism, catholicsm, shintoism..etc…..all your religion has failed because you’re teaching is against nature which is chaos and evil. Many scientist will explained that during the formation of the universe ,, chaos was extreame and thus results in nature as we can seen from the formation of EARTH, It was true chaos and naturally evil that causes EARTH its so called beautiful state it is now…Now see what have man made by inventing artificial things,,like automobile , aircon, plastics, chemivcals, handphone , TV, PAPER…etc….all these materials are not natural which have contristributed to global warming , green house…you guys thought by inventing such good thing will serve you well, ..reality is now kncking oin your door and nature evil will destroy humans…you may ask…how do we save humanity…heres the answer .. ISLAM..

    ISLAM will brings us back to stone age, where everybody will not lkean sceience, wil destroyed all non arabic and islamic culture and inpose pure ARABIC and ISLAIMIC doctrine forever in this world till end of time. There is no other way becasue to have lets say, japanese,, chinese, koreans, western, hindus, etc..culture, these people will not stop inventing non-islamis things like samsing, iphone, computer software, food(un halal), movies, music, aeroplane, ships, etc…all these discovery was a perversion of nature as nature have the sole rights over such non natural products… I choose ISLAM as can been seen that no islamic people have invent all the above I mentioned. I realises that through ISLAM , man will go back to its true roots of being evil and bring chaos to this world.

    We islamic people cannot be wrong, we can killed only kafirs, we can rape only kafirs, we can every thing evil to kafirs and feel no shame becasue our koran whcih I beleive its wtiiten by ALLAH( nature) and to be given to mankind..so that nature will not destroyed EARTH…I am sure many of you are working class people, haave you hate a colleagues, a certian type of behavior of people..racism..bigotory…etc.. that is not allowed… Be a muslim and you can practiced all this with full support of 1.8 billion muslim peorple worldide..We are in unision towards,evilness and chaos to humanity and don’t be ashame of it…AMEICANS and europeans have bben converting to islam becasue the shilte people are naturally prone to voilence and those who have converted tom islam are now acting on their nature given to them..pure evil ..JOHN WALKER , the USA taliban was a true nature of islam. MAY GOD BLESS HIM,…Jihad Jane antoher white woman now in the annals of muslim forklore…and many nore to come…blacks in france, UK , USA also realsied the evilness of islam and in prison, they all convrt to islam..MIKE TYSON…ring a bell. hopefully i ahve said enough to you all… why not convert ot islam,..and you can rule over all non-msulim..kill them and be free of no charge, rape all non-nsulim girls,,,like we are doing daily in EUROPE..AFRICA..INDONESIA..we get scot free, SHARIA law PROTECT us ..and to hell with USA constititions which protect all…We must put shariah and thus allowe evil to rule the world so that nature can be reastore and evil WINS… you cannot stop naturre and thus cannot stop evil..ISLAM is the way to satisfy the HUMAN nature of evilness and thus compkete the human well being…. 1.8 BILLION cannot bw wrong…

  42. leonidas
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    As the Koran defames,shows hate,slanders all other religions and their followers as Kafirin -unbelievers -that must be subjugated or be killed if they refuse to convert to Islam, the Koran must be denounced as incompatible with our Freedoms,Values,women equality,Democracy and Constitution by the Supreme Court of USA and the UN.
    Muhammad was a murderer,liar,pedophile,plunderer and must be denounced,and ridiculed as such daily.
    The Apostates from Islam must be protected from Death and the muslim women must be liberated from muslim male subjugation in all Muslim Lands ,then islam will collapse the way the Soviet Union did in 1989!
    Do not use Muslim Oil,develop green Energy,stop Muslim Immigration and expose and oppose the evil in the Koran , Sunna and Hadith so that reason,Truth and Humanity can defeat the Blindfaith,Lies and barbarity of Islam!

  43. M
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    I listen’d to your youtube msg on battles 1400 year Secret…where you address the Jews were involved in slave trade; one question: Do you have any idea how many of the Jews who were involved in slave trades we of the Kenites? I know Kenites infiltrated the tribe of Judah. And the Bible tells us to warn people of Kenites who are alive to this day!

  44. william Silverthorn
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    Loved this article, as well as your 45 minute presentation on the correct history that is not taught about Islam.

    You mentioned somewhere early in your presentation that if one wanted the slides you were using, to just drop you an email and ask. I can’t find your email address to do so, so I am asking here.

    I commend your work and have signed up for all of your newsletters. Let’s pray that the west wakes up!!

  45. Jesse
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    “I’m with Steve. That was a fantastic presentation and in fact opened my eyes to what Islam is truly about. I always suspected that there was something about it that I couldn’t quite put my finger on. Since watching that video, I’ve torn through politicalislam.com and I’ve read your other articles as well as the comments. Some of which were quite amusing. I’ve also gone to other websites to check and double check what you’ve said. I’ve looked at at the counter-arguments from other Muslim scholars but I’ve found that what you and others like you have to say makes far more sense. I can’t believe how ignorant I was before. I thank you sir and applaud you and your work. If there are any materials that I could use to help spread this message, I would like to know if they’re available. The best I have currently is my mouth and your site among others. I pray that you and your colleagues and the others who hear this will take it and respectfully inform the ignorant. Judging from some of the comments I’ve read in previous posts, I understand it is near impossible to reason with a Muslim scholar due to his zealotry. Yet still we must push on and continue to show others the objective facts not Muslim or elitist establishment opinion. I pray that God continues to bless you and your colleagues with the Spirit so that others can be informed as I have.”
    Jesse ” September 20, 2012 @ 1:54 AM

  46. Jesse
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    I would also like to point out that I learned more about Islam from your video and the many sources I’ve used in the past week or so than I have in my entire education in elementary, middle, and high school. I’m only a 19 year old college student so I can’t say that I’ve had much education to begin with lol.

  47. Jesse
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    I’m with Steve. That was a fantastic presentation and in fact opened my eyes to what Islam is truly about. I always suspected that there was something about it that I couldn’t quite put my finger on. Since watching that video, I’ve torn through politicalislam.com and I’ve read your other articles as well as the comments. Some of which were quite amusing. I’ve also gone to other websites to check and double check what you’ve said. I’ve looked at at the counter-arguments from other Muslim scholars but I’ve found that what you and others like you have to say makes far more sense. I can’t believe how ignorant I was before. I thank you sir and applaud you and your work. If there are any materials that I could use to help spread this message, I would like to know if they’re available. The best I have currently is my mouth and your site among others. I pray that you and your colleagues and the others who hear this will take it and respectfully inform the ignorant. Judging from some of the comments I’ve read in previous posts, I understand it is near impossible to reason with a Muslim scholar due to his zealotry. Yet still we must push on and continue to show others the objective facts not Muslim or elitist establishment opinion. I pray that God continues to bless you and your colleagues with the Spirit so that others can be informed as I have.

  48. DH
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    Perhaps they DO know, at the top, but are scared of another Oil Embargo.

  49. Joan
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    “So say the imams Obama and Hilary” Our Constitution is ignorance. We see whose side they are on now don’t we? How far Hilary has fallen away from the truth about God, America, and what Americans believe. Obama is no surprise at all to me.

  50. Steven Kressel
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    I watched your “Why we are afraid,…..” Excellent presentation. Thank you. I hope to communicate with you in the future. There is “clash of civilizations”. You recognize it. We seem to be in the minority. The policy of containment worked in the cold war with the Soviet Union. It can work now with imperialist Islam. Similar measures to aid and assist those behind the new iron curtain should be ramped up. VOA programs need more support. And we must stop buying oil from our enemies and those who support our enemies.
    LTC S.B. Kressel
    US Army, Ret.

  51. Amit
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    Thanks Sir. I did understood.

    That does explain why still many Muslims (esp in democratic regions) still are good. I do know principle of taqiyya and so yaa that is there. But yes neither active nor logical lives many of use and for them it seems Mecca is easier to live with and go with flow of society they live in (esp for them who live in democratic country) And you yourself never target Muslims and only the political doctrine which is 60% of Quran!
    So you are totally nonbiased. Feel many times pity too for those who wan’t to keep it simple (as being born in Islam by birth) and yet deceived.

  52. garrat
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    well it’s kind of funny really cause while in mecca Muhammed was actually persecuted. but in medina we see a complete 180 in behavior of him maybe something happened in that 200 mile journey? who knows

  53. priest
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    You are a very courageos and intelligent man, Mr. Warner. Even the Church, who should stay awaken, waiting for Jesus, is sleeping.

    Hope people read your writings.

  54. Larry Bailey
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    Enlightening and easy to understand. And, horrifyingly, historically and theologically accurate. Islam is Satan’s own doctrine.

  55. Bruce Sidebotham
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    Censoring private free speech that insults the Prophet of Islam eventually results in censoring speech that offends any self-appointed government of Islam. It aids and abets emerging religious totalitarianism, discourages dissent against Sharia (Muslim law), and undergirds draconian blasphemy laws. Americans must join Google in championing free speech, and must resist intimidation by ingeniously inspired Muslim mobs.

  56. Bill
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    Muslims always have before them two modes of behavior. Their choice is a product of who they are and the situation.

    Most people do not run their lives as logical and do not make active choices. Most Muslims know little about Islamic doctrine.

    Mecca is easier. That is enough for most people.

  57. Amit
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    Mecca is abrogated by Medina. True. I know their principle/tactic framed of abrogation. But If Muslims must know the order, then why would they choose over two Islams ~ Meccan and Medina? Because they can’t be dishonest by choosing the word of their messenger. I have studied your website and have studied much from citizenwarrior.com too, but here the question only comes as you stated, Mecca and Medina. Muslims have a choice.

    Why would they choose between two? They will only choose abrogation and choose that Medina is ultimate tactic they have to adopt. So I think they (each muslim who reads quran) will never choose peace (golden rule definition) and only choose their own peace?

  58. Paul T
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    You are too kind to Muslims’ reputations and should have written instead that

    Aggression is what brings Islam success.

    or

    Aggressive violence is what brings Islam success.

    There are other problems, too, in the paragraph at issue.

    It’s by the way that your “Constitution is [indeed] a document of ignorance to be removed from the world”. Consider the one clause of Article VII, for example. It pretends to state the law about how to establish itself as law. Other problems include the impossibility of establishing a republic by public means.

    Monday, the 17th of September, is just around the corner. Perhaps the petulant Muslims have a surprise in store for the part of world still sympathetic to Publius’ knavery.

  59. Bill
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    The Koran you buy mixes up both the Meccan chapters and the Medinan chapters. If you get one of the big green Korans at the mosque, it will usually tell you at the beginning of each chapter where it comes from.

    Muslims must know the order of writing of each chapter in order to know how to apply abrogation. The later verse trumps the earlier verses. Mecca is abrogated by Medina.

  60. Edgardo
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    Great article, Bill.

  61. Amit
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    Sir,

    Also, I want to know, is it that two Qurans are sold? Meccan one and Medina one seperately? Inside it may not be chronological order but this basic distinguishment is made? And so they can make choice? Two Islams? How do they know the choice if there is single quran and nothing differentiated? Since you have studied the facts, please help me understand it more.

    thankyou

  62. Bill
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    Your sentence refers to Muslims. I write only about the Islamic doctrine that includes the foundation of all we see in Middle East today. It is main stream if it is Koran or Sunna. They define middle of the road. What Muslims say or do cannot change Islam.

    Since Islam is dualitisic, there are always two Islams, Mecca and Medina. Muslims have a choice.

  63. Jim Yost
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    ‘They have refused to learn a single thing about Islamic doctrine and history since 9/11.’

    Our ruling elite and their lackey “intelligence” establishment haven’t learned anything about Islamic doctrine since the First Barbary War (1801-1805).

  64. Susan K
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    Oh yes! The best examples are our politicians but most importantly, our school boards.

    Ignorance of islam should be a criminal offense when working in a government position.

  65. veet vivarto
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    Excellent article. I wish everyone would read it.

    One thing I’d like to have more explanation for is the statement that the murderous mob that killed the Ambassador was not a fringe, but “main-line Islam”.

    It does seem that many, perhaps most people in Libya condemn the murder.

  66. Mac
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    “… awaken pretending …” Good job. Keep up. Praying to Trinity for you.

    mac

  67. Kim Bruce
    |

    Thanky you Dr. Warner for this illuminating article.
    You hit the proverbial nail on the head.

    “The farther you travel, the less you know.”
    Lao-Tzu

  68. Rod
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    Fantastic post. Thank you…

  69. Guy Macher
    |

    Bill, wonderfully written and argued as usual. Thank you for the info on the black flag. How ironic that “black flag” means disqualification in the civilized world!

    Please carry on the good work!

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