Measuring Extremism


So how many times have you heard this? Islamic State cuts off heads or they’re selling sex slaves in Africa and the apologists for Islam say, “Oh, that’s radical, that’s extreme, that’s not real Islam. I know some Muslims at work and they’re fine people; and besides that, it’s just a tiny minority that’s doing all those things.” So, in other words, “We don’t need to worry about it.”

What do they mean by extreme? Certainly cutting off heads falls in that category. But, you know there are other things that are extreme, like beating your wife, child brides, inbreeding (i.e., marrying your first cousin). Those are extreme things too. And what do all these extreme things have in common? They’re all in the Sharia. Because the killing of Kafirs (Jihad) is all in the Sharia, as well as child brides and inbreeding. So what we need to do here is to be able to measure not just radical killing, but all forms of radical ideas. In other words, we need to measure the Sharia. This has all been done for us. Pew Research has done a poll of some 38 nations, and what they did was they studied Muslims and how they feel about the Sharia. This is an in-depth study. Interestingly enough, 28% of all those Muslims who think that the Sharia should rule say that apostates should be killed. This is extreme. Killing somebody because they had a change of conscience and leave their religion—if that’s not extreme, what isn’t? And 28% is not a small minority.

Annihilation

Now, there’s another very interesting statistic in here, and that is: out of the Muslims who want Sharia, 52% of them say that it should only cover Muslims. But, 42% think that the Kafir should be ruled by Islam as well. That’s a disaster! Here’s why: Have you ever wondered what happened to Christianity in the Middle East? Well, I’ll tell you what happened to it. Jihad put the Sharia in place and, once the Christians became Dhimmis ( i.e., second class subjects living in Islamic countries), they were ruled by the Sharia, a system that annihilates Christian civilization. In fact, it annihilates all civilizations. That’s what happened in Afghanistan, and that’s what happened in Pakistan. You see, they used to be Buddhist and Hindu, but the Sharia destroyed them. Sharia destroys and annihilates all Kafir civilizations. Now, it can take a while: for instance, the destruction of Christianity in Turkey took several centuries. But, as soon as the Sharia is in place and rules the Kafir, the Kafir civilization will die. This is more important than killing an individual; we’re talking about entire civilizations.

Reformation?

Now, if you’re a good apologist for Islam, you’ll say, “Well, maybe, but we just need a reform. Christians have had a reform.” Let’s examine the idea of reforming Islam. Let’s start with a simple fact. The Koran is complete, perfect, universal. How do you reform that? And, by the way, you do know there are two different Korans. There is an early Koran written in Mecca, and it’s generally tolerant of others and 64% of the Koran is in Mecca. But then there’s a smaller portion, written in Medina, that’s 36%, and the Medinan Koran calls for the rule of Sharia. Now, how are you going to reform this? Because, you see, the Medinan Koran follows the earlier Meccan Koran and the Koran itself says that it’s stronger. So, the minor part of the Koran is stronger than the major part. You can’t get rid of it; it can’t go away. Actually, those Muslims, the 42% who want the rule of Sharia, are the better Muslims. So, we’re stuck with no reform; it cannot change.

The Tiny Minority?

And we also have to remember this, 42% is not a tiny minority, it is a dominating minority. So, think about that the next time somebody tells you: “Oh, that killing, that’s not real, that’s extreme, and it’s just a tiny minority.”

36 Responses

  1. Col ASP vinod
    |

    Once again Dr Warner has caught the Jihadic Bull of today by its Horns. And such a to the point discussion of firstlym the most burning topics for us today, secondly, the most often used “defence” arguments by Mohammedans and lastly, the straight-forward answers to each of them. Each answer is irrefutable to every thinking person. All one needs is a clear head without prejudice to come to the truth of the matter. I find your work most encouraging. One is certain that there are many more who think this way too. God bless you, keep the good work going.

  2. Democracyistheanswer
    |

    Slavery isn’t ‘extreme Islam’, but normative Islam. A huge amount of text in Sharia law is dedicated to the topic of slavery. This quantity of text shows slavery’s immense IMPORTANCE in Islam. Slavery starts in jihad when kafirs are taken as prisoners of war. Slavery in Islam is never-ending. There is slavery in paradise as well for all eternity. Women are eternally the slaves of Muslim men in this world and the next. Houris are eternal sex slaves who cannot say no to any command.

    We should not even say ‘extreme’ Islam, because jihad and enslavement are not ‘extreme’. Jihad is a normal activity in Islam that every Muslim should conduct several times a year according to the sacralized example of Mohammed.

  3. RCH
    |

    My highest respects to U Dr Warner. I just loved ur video on the real cause of the Dark Ages in Eu. So thoroughly and incisively researched and makes COMPLETE sense. As a Hindu from Bhaarath (India) and whose people have been suffering from the tyranny of non-stop Jehaad for centuries on end and the horror is continuing even today, I completely endorse ur views and watch all ur videos. It is only because of fearless individuals like U, that there is some hope for the free and civilized world. Because I have been holding to this view for long: Other than the twin interrelated threats of Global Warming and Climate Change, Jehaadi Islamic terror is the 3rd threat that has the potential to COMPLETELY wipe out humanity as we see it today.

  4. FactsRule
    |

    Happy & honored to have discover your website, Bill.
    Agree, but do not think for a moment that marrying a first cousin is necessarily extreme.
    That’s probably the only thing about which I’ll ever disagree with you.

  5. sohail mahmoud
    |

    You do not know anything about Islam and says that it was spread by the sword and you are in the wrong directory and the rejoinder is that the spread of Islam in Indonesia and Malaysia without the Islamic conquests up to those country
    For your information Dear sir that in the Koran did not mention the sword or any of the names
    As Allah Almighty says, “claimed the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching and argue with them is the best”
    He also did not say invite them to the Lord by fighting and forced them to enter Islam

    • Col ASP vinod
      |

      Dear Dost, (Friend), Rather than discuss fringe mattes let us focus on what the Koran says, as I, too, live amongst Muslims. The prophet Md specified hacking off the arms and legs of Kafirs ? He even specified in which gruesome order to do the hacking! A Kafir can never be an equal in a muslim country but only second-class citizens, who pays protection money to live in any Islamic State ? This is true in every Gulf State today which allow NO religious freedom. That Allah is not the name of God Amighty but the name of the tribal-god of Md’s tribe who was imposed on all other Mecca-Medina tribes when Md ordered the destruction of the other tribal gods-shrines at Kabalah? Does Allah at any point say that he loves us humans, anywhere in the Koran? Why discuss small issues. Let us be clear on the Basics. Right now the reading of the Koran (which I have done) is deeply troubling. Love you brother, in Yeshua’ name.

      • Ibad
        |

        Col ASP vinod,
        The order of hacking off the kafir’s arms and legs were done because they were the people who betrayed inspite of the generous behaviour done to them. Please go through proper details about the event before making a statement.

        • M.e.
          |

          So your Allah is OK with hacking off arms and legs/feet of those that betray Allah if Allah had treated those people “generously”; your Allah is a small, shallow being; where’s the mercy? Seriously, I’m always amazed when people defend the indefensible with utter rubbish; there’s so much wrong with your Allah that it must be a mental nightmare trying to square the circle of hatred and barbarity exposed by Allah with the lie that islam is the religion of peace.

          • Ibad
            |

            Islam is the religion of peace and justice…. Peace was given to them but they rejected it…
            Answer me this… why is the death sentence given in courts? without any reason or for a heinous crime…
            And according to your comments Allah does exists!!!! right???
            Allah provided them, you and me with all good things but I accept Alhamdulillah and you reject…
            I recommend you study deeper about Islam if you wanna comment anything…
            Being stubborn would make you fool not a believer… so keep a broad mind and learn…
            And don’t comment anything without proper study and which you don’t know
            May Allah guide you…

    • knowledgeofbook
      |

      + sohail mahmoud

      You spoke about Indonesia Right? Here you go http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Kemukus
      Indonesia is Polyetheist and as per Quran all Polyetheist should be killed with Allah’s sword. So what are you waiting for? Please ride your horses and wipe out Indonesian kuffars.

  6. jessinoregon
    |

    Thank you for this insightful article, if it wasn’t for you and the people at the Long War Journal all I would get is the propaganda machine of the West. Freedom minded people need to wake up!

  7. M.e.
    |

    @Ibad; Hard to understand such stupid response; your God says its OK therefor it is OK; your logic is that of a 3 year old; and no, you Allah does not exist; there’s no way a desert thug, raider, murderer, sex slaver, slaver and womenizer is the one true God; more like the one true evil; may you come to your senses and realize that Islam is a death cult and nothing else! All you have to so is look at ISIS, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or any other country where Islam dominates to see the inhumanity of the sick cult.

  8. Nilesh B
    |

    + Ibad.

    If you have the guts prove the below wrong.
    The truth behind the Black Stone of Kaaba, Allah, Angel and Muhammad: When Muhammad finally subjugated the Quraysh tribe and ordered destruction of about 360 (idols) gods and goddesses in 632 AD, he only left one stone unmolested in the Kaaba (in Mecca). He kissed the stone and all muslims till today kiss while on Hajj. This is polyetheism. You are all idiots. Muhammad was polyetheist and you all are.

    Muhammad the MURDERER:
    QURAN (33:34), (33:26-27), (3:86), (5:33-39)
    SAHIH BUKHARI (4:52:256), (5:59:582), (5:59:662), (4:56:826)
    AL-TABARI (VOL 8.P.38), (VOL 8.P.35)
    ABU DAWUD (38:4390)
    ISHAQ (464)

    Muhammad the CHILD RAPIST AND PODEPHILE:
    SAHIH BUKHARI (7:62:64), (5:236), (59:382), (6:298), (47:755)
    SAHIH MUSLIM (3341)

    Muhammad the TERRORIST:
    QURAN (17:16), (4:74), (8:12), (8:15), (8:39), (8:65), (9:5)
    QURAN (9:30), (9:38-39), (9:73), (9:123)
    SAHIH BUKHARI (52:177), (5:256), (52:220)
    SAHIH MUSLIM (1:33), (20:4696)

    Muhammad the SEX SLAVE TRADER:
    QURAN (33:50), (23:5-6), (4:24), (8:69), (24:32)
    SAHIH BUKHARI (80:753), (62:137), (34:432), (34:351)

    Muhammad the RACIST AND EXTORTIONIST:
    QURAN (5:51), (3:28), (2:65), (98:6), (9:29), (39:60)
    SAHIH BUKHARI (9:89:256), (53:386), (9:89:329)
    SAHIH MUSLIM (19:4294), (41:6985)
    AL-TABARI (VOL 9.P.69, ISHAQ:243)
    IBN MUSAAL-YAHSUBI, QADI IYAD (P.375)

    Muhammad the SEX ADDICT AND PERVERT:
    SAHIH BUKHARI (7:62:142), (1:5:268), (8:82:794), (1:6:296)
    SAHIH MUSLIM (8:3240)

    Muhammad the WIFE BEATER AND MISOGYNIST:
    QURAN (4:34), (38:41-44), (2:282)
    SAHIH BUKHARI (1:6:301), (2:24:541), (3:48:826)
    SAHIH MUSLIM (4:2127)
    ABU DAWUD (11:2139-2142)

    Muhammad the DEMON POSSESED PSYCHOPATH:
    QURAN (53:19-22), (22:52-53), (5:33), (9:123), (17:16)
    SAHIH BUKHARI (1:1:2), (6:61:508), (7:660), (9:87:111)

    Muhammad on the NON BELIEVERS:
    QURAN (9:26), (22:52-53), (5:33), (9:123), (17:16)

    (Quran-3:56)-“As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with TERRIBLE AGONY in this world and in the Hereafter”)

    Quran (5:33) – “The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement”

    47 countries and 1400 years but not a single country where Sharia has been successful. Rape, in any form is allowed under Sharia. Let me tell you something which will add to your knowledge. The muslims at the time of one battle with Muhammad captured both men and women. Womens were captured with their husbands. The historical background was muslims didn’t want to have sex with the captive women in front of their husbands. So muslims went to Muhammad and said, “O Prophet of Allah.. No! we cannot have sex with these women in front of their men.” Its shameful. Allah is Oft Forgiving. He listened to Muhammad and send down the relevation so Muhammadans can have sex with the married slaves. Read for yourself you idiot

    Quran verse 4:2: “Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allah ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek them (with a dowry) from your property, desiring chastity, not fornication. So with those among them whom you have enjoyed, give them their required due, but if you agree mutually (to give more) after the requirement (has been determined), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allah is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise.”

    So your Allah (who is creation of your psycopath Muhammad) sent Quran verse 4:24 down specifically to rape and have sex with captive women in front of their husbands. Isnt Islam great? You don’t anything about Islam being muslim but I have been reading all your books. Go and read for yourself (Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim and Tafsir al Jalalyn) and if you dont understand you non educated illiterate idiots muslims then come back to us telling that Islam is religion of peace.

    You think you can only do Jihad? Wait and you will see the Jihad of non muslims. You will see the Jihad of Kafirs. You will see the Jihad of Hindus, Buddhist, Sikhs, Christians and everybody soon.

    Then we will read the quran in front of you and we will apply all verses on you. We are waiting for it to come. Last time the Caliphate was ended on 3rd march 1924 and the Arabs were terrified. But this time we wont leave anyone as we will end the full Arabs and Non Arab muslims and your so called Caliphate with Sharia. Just wait and watch and see how we will apply Sharia on you. We have had enough but no more. You just do it and see we will show the Jihad of Non Believers.

    I am writing the first book of my life named “The Jihad Inside Me” where you will see all references from Quran, Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim and Tafsir al Jalalyn.

    You non educated illiterate non Arab 80% muslims are nothing but pigs of 20% Arab muslims. Do you have the guts to go and challenge Saudi Arabia? No. The Saudis have already demolised house of Muhammad long back and there is a toilet now on which every muslim piss every day 24×7. Now the Saudis are demolishing the Masjid and grave of Muhammad. Do you have the guts to go and attack Saudis? No. Because you dont have balls. One Muhammad cartoon annoys you right? But you kept quite when Saudis demolished Muhammad’s house. Now its going to be his grave and Masjid. What are you going to do now? Rise up because the 20% Arab Muhammadan muslims have been using you for 1400 years and you got used like a condomn. Till its not late. come out of your filthy quran. And may be you will be saved. If not then be ready because on one side are the 20% Muhammadan Arabs which will slay you and on the other side the non belivers will kill you via the Jihad of Non Believers.

    Best of Luck to you!!!

    • Ibad
      |

      @Nilesh
      First know what is Black Stone.. And that stone is not an idol you fool!!!!
      Quran 5:33 – Waging war against people for defending yourself… Being fearless and support Islam…
      Refer this link : http://www.quranicpath.com/finerpoints/cut_hands_feet.html

      You idiots are not willing to understand anything!!! You fools just want to prove something wrong which is so correct and authentic…

      The jews, the christians and so many hindus are not stupid to become a believer and accept Islam… They studied and learned that Islam is the only religion which is authentic… No disrespect for any religion…. Becoz Islam doesn’t allow us to make fun or abuse of other religions…

      You people including Dr.Bill Warner are fools, you don’t want to understand… If you die with these belief, you will come to know after death what is wrong and right?

      You fools are taking yourself to fire… Think about it!!!!

      • M.e.
        |

        We’re idiots because we don’t believe in Mo, the piece of crap con-man; even Aisha found it quite interesting that Mo got a message to fill his every perverted sexual desire. Seriously, it’s “correct and authentic” crap; it’s authentic because some people who used to believe in other myths now believes in your myths; wow, your logic is beyond stupid. There’s so much that’s absolutely crazy that’s in Islam; if Mo is the one and true god I’ll take my chances with Hell; I believe in no God that says it’s OK to kill people that insult him or that leave his faith; no God that gives us the stupidity of the Koran would prescribe killing for those intelligent enough to see it for the crap that it is. You mommy and daddy must’ve been brother and sister for you to be so stupid. What’s your IQ? 70?

        • Ibad
          |

          Refer this link : http://youtu.be/eT-Rh1auG0A It answers your stupid question… You idiot don’t study and start criticizing people…
          I think you are a person who is filled with all bullshit by someone… Listen you moron, I didn’t reply here to abuse, so just cut your crap and study and then pass your comments….
          According to me you don’t have any IQ level, coz you just don’t know what you are saying…. So think.. were you born from your brother’s sperm!!!!

          I won’t be replying back becoz when dog starts barking you can’t help it rather than leaving the place and its not my standard to talk to a fool like yourself!!!

      • Nilesh B
        |

        yes M.e. is correct. We know you pisslam better than you. You need to go and read your “Quran Tafsir Ibn Kathir” I have read it nicely. And if you say Ibn Khatir is wrong then you are abusing your Quran and Islam. Read what your Sharia says
        Sharia law is the law of Islam. The Sharia (also spelled Shariah or Shari’a) law is cast from the actions and words of Prophet Muhammad, which are called “Sunnah,” and the Quran, which he authored. It is derived primarily from the Quran and the Sunna—the sayings, practices, and teachings of the Prophet Mohammed. Precedents and analogy applied by Muslim scholars are used to address new issues. The consensus of the Muslim community also plays a role in defining this theological manual.
        Sharia developed several hundred years after the Prophet Mohammed’s death in 632 CE as the Islamic empire expanded to the edge of North Africa in the West and to China in the East. Since the Prophet Mohammed was considered the most pious of all believers, his life and ways became a model for all other Muslims and were collected by scholars into what is known as the hadith. As each locality tried to reconcile local customs with Islam, hadith literature grew and developed into distinct schools of Islamic thought: the Sunni schools, Hanbali, Maliki, Shafi’i, Hanafi; and the Shiite school, Ja’fari. Named after the scholars that inspired them, they differ in the weight each applies to the sources from which sharia is derived, the Quran, hadith, Islamic scholars, and consensus of the community. The Hanbali school, Islam’s most orthodox which spawned the Wahhabi and Salafi branches, is embraced in Saudi Arabia and by the Taliban. The Hanafi school, known for being the most liberal and the most focused on reason and analogy, is dominant among Sunnis in Central Asia, Egypt, Pakistan, India, China, Turkey, the Balkans, and the Caucasus. The Maliki school is dominant in North Africa and the Shafi’i school in Indonesia, Malaysia, Brunei Darussalam, and Yemen. Shia Muslims follow the Ja’fari school, most notably in Shia-dominant Iran. The distinctions have more impact on the legal systems in each country, however, than on individual Muslims, as many do not adhere to one school in their personal lives. The Sharia law itself cannot be altered, but the interpretation of the Sharia law, called “figh,” by imams is given some leeway. As a legal system, the Sharia law covers a very wide range of topics. While other legal codes deal primarily with public behavior, Sharia law covers public behavior, private behavior and private beliefs. Of all legal systems in the world today, Islam’s Sharia law is the most intrusive and strict, especially against women. According to the Sharia law: Below are the 34 actual points of Sharia law to give you an idea what it would be live to live under actual Sharia law if it is applied in the world you live in today. Just have a feel of it and then try to understand Sharia better.

        1- Jihad, defined as “to war against non-Muslims to establish the religion,” is the duty of every Muslim and Muslim head of state (Caliph). Muslim Caliphs who refuse jihad are in violation of Sharia and unfit to rule.
        2- A Caliph can hold office through seizure of power meaning through force.
        3- A Caliph is exempt from being charged with serious crimes such as murder, adultery, robbery, theft, drinking and in some cases of rape.
        4- A percentage of Zakat (charity money) must go towards jihad.
        5- It is obligatory to obey the commands of the Caliph, even if he is unjust.
        6- A caliph must be a Muslim, a non-slave and a male.
        7- The Muslim public must remove the Caliph if he rejects Islam.
        8- A Muslim who leaves Islam must be killed immediately.
        9- A Muslim will be forgiven for murder of: 1) an apostate 2) an adulterer 3) a highway robber. Vigilante street justice and honor killing is acceptable.
        10- A Muslim will not get the death penalty if he kills a non-Muslim, but will get it for killing a Muslim.
        11- Sharia never abolished slavery, sexual slavery and highly regulates it. A master will not be punished for killing his slave.
        12- Sharia dictates death by stoning, beheading, amputation of limbs, flogging even for crimes of sin such as adultery.
        13- Non-Muslims are not equal to Muslims under the law. They must comply to Islamic law if they are to remain safe. They are forbidden to marry Muslim women, publicly display wine or pork, recite their scriptures or openly celebrate their religious holidays or funerals. They are forbidden from building new churches or building them higher than mosques. They may not enter a mosque without permission. A non-Muslim is no longer protected if he leads a Muslim away from Islam.

        14- It is a crime for a non-Muslim to sell weapons to someone who will use them against Muslims. Non-Muslims cannot curse a Muslim, say anything derogatory about Allah, the Prophet, or Islam, or expose the weak points of Muslims. But Muslims can curse non-Muslims.
        15- A non-Muslim cannot inherit from a Muslim.
        16- Banks must be Sharia compliant and interest is not allowed.

        A young boy in Iran got caught stealing bread in a market, and this was his punishment. Having his hand crushed under the wheel of a moving truck. Do we still have to believe that Islam is a Religion of Peace? Or is it barbaric cruelty?

        17- No testimony in court is acceptable from people of low-level jobs, such as street sweepers or bathhouse attendants. Women in low level jobs such as professional funeral mourners cannot keep custody of their children in case of divorce.
        18- A non-Muslim cannot rule — even over a non-Muslim minority.
        19- Homosexuality is punishable by death.
        20- There is no age limit for marriage of girls. The marriage contract can take place anytime after birth and can be consummated at age 8 or 9.
        21- Rebelliousness on the part of the wife nullifies the husband’s obligation to support her, gives him permission to beat her and keep her from leaving the home.
        26- The dowry is given in exchange for the woman’s sexual organs.
        27- A man is allowed to have sex with slave women and women captured in battle, and if the enslaved woman is married her marriage is annulled.
        28- The testimony of a woman in court is half the value of a man.
        29- A woman loses custody if she remarries.
        30- To prove rape, a woman must have 4 male witnesses.
        Reyhaneh was sentenced to death in 2009 for stabbing to death a former employee of Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence, Morteza Abdolali Sarbandi who tried to rape her. Reyhaneh Jabbari, 27, was hanged in Iran as per Sharia Law despite international outcry and a high-profile campaign within the repressive state urging authorities to stay her sentence. In her last will and testament, the young woman said that she did not want to be buried in a grave where her mother would go to cry and suffer, nor did she want her to wear black. ‘I don’t want to rot in the soil. Please don’t cry. I love you’, she told Sholeh Pakravan. ‘I wish I could have hugged you until I died’.

        Sharia is nothing but an eye for an eye. A life for a murder even if it’s done to save yourself for getting raped.
        Islam is not looking for acceptance, they are looking for dominance.
        31- A rapist may only be required to pay the bride-money (dowry) without marrying the rape victim.
        Article 475 of the Morocco penal code allows a rapist to escape prosecution if he married his underage victim. This is called as Islamic Morocco ‘rape marriage law’
        Amina al-Filali, 16, was forced to marry a man who had allegedly raped her. The issue made international headlines in March 2012.
        After seven months of marriage to the 23-year-old man, Amina committed suicide in 2012. Her parents and a judge had forced the marriage to protect the family honour.
        The incident sparked calls for the law to be changed. The traditional practise of forced marriage can be found across the Middle East and in countries such as India and Afghanistan, where the loss of a woman’s virginity out of wedlock puts a stain on a family’s honour.
        32- A Muslim woman must cover every inch of her body, which is considered “Awrah,” a sexual organ. Not all Sharia schools allow the face of a woman exposed.
        33- A Muslim man is forgiven if he kills his wife at the time he caught her in the act of adultery. However, the opposite is not true for women, since the man “could be married to the woman he was caught with.”
        34-It is obligatory for a Muslim to lie if the purpose is obligatory. That means that for the sake of abiding with Islam’s commandments, such as jihad, a Muslim is obliged to lie and should not have any feelings of guilt or shame associated with this kind of lying.
        Why is Sharia so important to muslims?
        Below is the belief that muslims believe in for Sharia.
        The importance of Shariah can be seen through the meaning of the concept. The word shariah literally means a waterway that leads to a main stream, a drinking place, and a road or the right path. From this meaning, the word shariah was used to refer to a path or a passage that leads to an intended place, or to a certain goal.

        The importance of Shariah is evident in the denotations of the literal meaning. Water is life for everything, Shariah is life for the Muslims’ souls and a way of life for them.

        On the other hand, Shariah, conceptually, refers to a set of rules, regulations, teachings, and values governing the lives of Muslims. However, these rules and regulations, contrary to how they are often described by many non-Muslims, cover every aspect of life. Shariah embraces worship, morals and conduct, as well as it embraces the political, social and economic, as well as other spheres.

        Muslims believe that the purpose of their creation is nothing but servitude [being servants to the creator of mankind]. They also believe that without the guidance of Allah (God) no one will meet this purpose. Therefore Allah sent messengers and prophets with teachings, values, rules and regulations to guide mankind to His way, the right way.

        The first step in the fulfillment of the servitude mission is the complete submission to Allah, which is Islam. The second step is following the guidance of Allah, which is the Shariah. In other words, accepting Islam as a religion and the adherence to the Shariah as the guidance.

        Hence, the importance of the Shariah is its central role in guiding Man to the right way, whereby the mission of creation can be fulfilled. The Shariah, therefore, is a path – set by Allah for those who accept Him – to follow, in order to attain success both in the worldly life and in the hereafter.
        s
        Thus, to live in Islam is to live according to the Shariah, and ignoring the Shariah or even any part of it, deliberately, is ignoring Islam itself. Muslims have to adhere to the Shariah and observe its teachings throughout their lives.

        If this is not enough then go and read Ibn Khatir. Oh! one most important thing. I hope you know that Muhammad had a house. The Sauds of Saudi Arabia has constructed a public toilet over his house and all the muslims over the world piss in it 24×7. Now the next move of Sauds is that they will be demolishing Muhammad’s tomb and the mosque where he prayed. When one cartoon of Muhammad is released in Denmark you non educated, illiterate idiotic fools come on the streets of the world to show how non educated, illiterate idiotic fools you are. Let us now see what you do when the Sauds will demolish the mosque and tomb of Muhammad? ha ha we all know that not a single muslim in the world have the balls to go and talk with Saudi because if you go then you will be stone to death.

        Sauds are the real followers of Muhammad. No image no mosque not even Muhammad’s name have to be uttered. They will kill all of them one day who follow Muhammad as god. You all are kafirs you polyetheist belivers of Muhammad. Your Allah is a slave of Muhammad and listens only to him. Very soon my book is released you will see all events of your god Muhammad taken from Ibn Khatir in my book. If you reject it then you will rejecting Islam and Quran itself. I have taken all facts from Quran, Hadith, Sahih Bukhari, Sahih Muslim, Ibn Khatir with all pages and references. Have the balls to prove it wrong then you will prove all I have mentioned are wrong.

  9. M.e.
    |

    Lmao … wah wah wah … you crying boy …. no one needs to study your stupid links to know you have no answer to Pislam’s barbarity; go drink some camel urine!

    • Nilesh B
      |

      + Ibad
      http://edition.cnn.com/2014/12/16/world/asia/pakistan-peshawar-school-attack/
      In Pakistan school attack, Taliban terrorists kill 145, mostly children. This is what happens when you eat the fruits of Jihad given by your evil quran written by your god Muhammad. Dont worry. The Saudi Wahabi’s will very soon show more of this kind to you all. You uneducated, illiterate, idiotic fools still have time to come out of 4 walls of quran and Jihad and leave the evil ways of Muhammad else your own people will kill you one by one.

  10. Islamophobia?

    Nearly one and one-half millennia of slavery, rape, and slaughter in Allah’s name …

    80% of American — not Pakistani, not Saudi Arabian, not Iranian, but American — mosques teach jihad/Islamic supremacism …

    More than twenty-one thousand documented jihad attacks since 9/11 alone, and …

    Islam’s “Ideal Man” Muhammad — Allah’s “beautiful pattern of conduct” for those who want to please it — preached and practiced genocide, pedophilia, rape, slavery, torture, mutilation, anti-Semitism, theft, extortion, arson, wife-beating, polygyny, religious and gender apartheid, sedition, treason, deceit, and blasphemy and warned his devotees that “Allah made me do it, and you will too, or else!”

    No, “Islamophobia” is impossible. Merely pointing out simple facts regarding a genocidal, malevolent, and totalitarian ideology is neither phobic nor intolerant. It is highly rational and moral.

    We are in only the latest phase of an ancient and existential struggle, Allah’s war against humanity.

  11. JohnIslam
    |

    To reader , I John Islam is back.

    If you read all my past post, I have predicted many events which have not happen.
    I purposely stop writing in this site for the whole of 2014 and I predicted ISLAM will spread more heinous crimes against kafir
    from the likes of ISIS , BOKO HAREM, BOSTON BOMBING..e.tc…

    This proves that ISLAM is the TRUTH and it happens because all you KAFIR failed to convert.
    I saw ISLAM coming 25 years ago and I quickly convert myself and wife.

    The day of slaughter of kafir which ALLAH has conveyed to me will begins when Hillary Clinton becomes the US PRESIDENT.

    Mark my words, come 2016 ,she will be the president of USA who with the LIBERALS and European leaders of UK, FRANCE, GERMANY, HOLLAND, SP[AIN, ITALY, etc and not to mentioned UN will destroyed he WEST with political corrections and protection of all MUSLIM worldwide.

    There is nothing any of you who want to fight ISLAM. You are all total losers accept it.

    The very fact that ISIS can do so much horror and yet OBAMA and its European Leaders praise ISLAM is because of one and only 1 thing in their mind.

    ISLAM will dominate THE WORLD to replaced WESTERN Civilization.
    The liberals and DEMOCRATES saw it coming.

    I am an old man and I have enjoyed watching and reading what my ISLAMIC brothers do in the name of ALLAH, KILLING, raping, murder, beheading, stoning. All the greatest horror which is to glorify ALLALH and yet NOT A SINGLE kafir nation do anything about it.

    This is CLEAR sign that Allah is with us.

    I shall not write further. For your info if any EUROPEANS people out here.
    Suggest you convert and be a Muslim BEACUSE it is 100 % , we Muslim have already taken your country.

    We would like to thank all THE LIBERALS of EUROPE who allow us MUSLIM to breed hates speech , slowly and surely our numbers has grown to hundreds of millions now in EUOPRE, it is inevitable. WE Muslim has made history without fighting a war ,we conquered EUROPE. just so you know, the recent mosque attack in Sweden and your PM and liberals support MUSLIM and has all you police man protected all Swedish Muslim nation wide. The best part is we rape all Sweden blond and NO POLICE came to your rescue , we rape all UK underage girls and NO police or politicians do anything. If you don’t do anything, you think you will do anything now or future ?

    What we have done to EUOPRE will be the same method to be done in USA.
    USA is the last frontier of western civilization.

    Hillary Clinton and all the LIBERALS is helping us Muslim to take over America.
    This will be achieved in totality by 2050.
    In 2075, The total extinct of western civilisation will be complete.

    Below is the date of certain European countries that will be officially changed its name.

    2030 – Holland STAN, Austria Stan, Belgium Stan, Finland Stan, Greece Stan
    2050 – Sweden STAN , Norway Stan, UK Stan, France Stan, SPAIN Stan, Italy Stan and all BALKANS states.
    2060 – GERMANY Stan , Poland Stan, UKRAINE STAN.

    In fact ,it will be a domino effect that it becomes a natural phenomenon and the best parts is ALL THE LIEBRALS accept it.
    When we Muslim takes full control in all political arena, WE WILL SLAUGHETR ALL LIBERAL who advocates freedom of anything not ISLAMIC and 100% Sharia LAW will be the LAW for all people.
    We will have 2 caliphate in operations.

    One caliphate where the original ARABS will rule all non western countries by ISLAIMC sharia law.

    The other will be MUSLIM convert to watch out for anyone who want to convert out of ISLAM as the memory of KAFIR idea is still in his blood. It may take about 2 generations to wipe out any traces of white convert to ever know their history.

    This is our plan and I see the complete ISLAIMSATION Of the world before 2100.

    And then , lets party and enjoy DAY and night of beheading, rape, screams of agony for ever and ever in the name of ALLAH.
    May ALLAH guide us to this victory.

    btw, I thank all LIBERALS and democrats for helping to destroyed yourself and my sincere appreciation to actor BEN Affleck for his continuation of LIBERALS ideas and protection of MUSLIM worldwide.

    I also extend on behalf of SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW that keeps looking out for hate speech against ISLAM such as BILL WARNER, PAMELLA GELLAR, ROBERT SPENCER, Bridget Gabriel, etc…

    We also like to thank Bill de Blasio , the MAYOR OF new York for its 100 % liberals policies that protect ISLAM for any crimes against kafir.

    We also thanks the millions of Christians, Buddhist, Hindus, JEWS who despite we MUSLIM enjoyed killing all of you take no action and sing praise that ISLAM is the religion of peace.

    And most all of , we thank the KAFIR for standing up for Islam DEPSITE WHAT WE Muslim wants to achieved and that is to kill all kafir until there is none left.

    I John ISLAM has spoken and it will come to pass.

  12. knowledgeofbook
    |

    + John Islam

    What do you think? We are also waiting for it. You dont know but you will surely know soon. Already there are groups who have accepted Islam (just to show) and they are using Sharia as a shield against muslims. When time comes I will also do the same. I will start raping all the muslims and as per Sharia you need 4 witness. Right? So be ready for it as all the non muslims will very soon pretend that they have accepted ISLAM and they will be in your homes to enjoy your wives, daughters, sisters, cousins and every women who is muslim. They will know your Quran in and out just the way I know. They will speak your language and they will by heart all the Quran Sura’s.

    Muslims have tried alot to capture the world but everytime they have failed. First Caliphate was ended in 10th century and regained back. Second Caliphate was ended on 03-Mar-1924. Lets see how your 3rd comes in. But this time even Saudi is killing all the muslims. I hope you know that except Kaaba the Saudis have destroyed everything which belonged to Muhammad. Muhammad and Khadijas house is turned to a toilet where all muslims of the world piss 24×7 and its pisslam now. Muhammad grave is being flattened and now the mosque where he used to pray is being demolished by the Sauds.

    So thats the end of Muhammad. Nothing remains of Muhammad. One cartoon of Denmark and so many processions by muslims. All things of Muhammad demolised by Saudis and not even one muslim have the balls with their cut penis to go against the Saudis? Do you think you have the balls to challenge the WAHABIS?

    Ha ha ha no one can challenge Saudi. Read and be happy. See the destruction of photos with your own eyes.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudis-risk-new-muslim-division-with-proposal-to-move-mohameds-tomb-9705120.html
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/medina-saudis-take-a-bulldozer-to-islams-history-8228795.html
    http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/saudi_destruction_of_muslim_historical_sites1
    http://time.com/3584585/saudi-arabia-bulldozes-over-its-heritage/

    Saudi organizations desecrate holy Quran. The quran is lying in gutter in Saudi Arabia. Do you have the balls to go and do Jihad with Saudis? No.
    http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/12/16/340356/saudi-organizations-desecrate-holy-quran/

    The non Islamic Jihad is working in parallel and you dont even know about it. But you will surely know. Just wait and watch and you will enjoy it as and when you will discover it.

  13. […] Here’s Bill Warner, from the Center for the Study of Political Islam, on this subject of the myth of Islamic “extremism.” [See a particularly acute case of Islam Denial Syndrome in today’s New York Times, which states: ”The rash of horrific attacks in the name of Islam is spurring an anguished debate among Muslims here in the heart of the Islamic world about why their religion appears cited so often as a cause for violence and bloodshed.”] […]

  14. The Man
    |

    +Nilesh B @Nilesh B
    i just want to clarify one thing about your understanding of the meaning of jihad, in base islam (the orgianl says from hadith and the quran before you understand it in your own way) jihad is to fight the unbelivers.. thats it, but you have taken out the sentence from the context, if you know engilsh (which you know), you probably know what is the meaning of the context, if you got all those ayas(verses) that you listed above (where most of them dosent refer to the topic you were talking about) and read the context one over another you will understand that they get a different meaning or maybe they have the same meaning but different understanding according to the tafsir, u said that u read the ibn kasir tafsir and you assume you know it well, But, actually, islam has been over there for about 1400 years and a lot of interpreters have explained the quran in the way they think it is true and depending on the factors of the time they were living in, i am not saying they are wrong but the world have changed now and by this, the understandings have changed too, so what was said by ibn kasir there by may seem not correct right now (althrough they didnt state things like sex trading or other things that you stated) and you have to understand the quran by refering to the quran itself and by knowing the actual meanings of the phrases and using the sense of humor based on the sayings of the prophet muhammed on these topics
    Well, you refer too to the hadith (like sahih albukhari and sahih muslim) and by the fact that they are as correct as the quran but no, they are not as it, they have commited mistakes in certain palaces, and many of the muslim scholars have proved so
    Back to the jihad which is to fight the unbelivers and help spread the religion, and when we get a complete explaination based on the hadith and the Quran, we find that it is to fight the unbelivers who form a threat on the islam and the muslims and to spread the religion of Allah (it didnt never ever state that this should be by sword) but by talking and arguing (Quran:16:125) and that is the correct meaning of jihad in islam, either than that is wrong, these fool jihadists have understood the islam way wrong than that it is and you too have misunderstood.

  15. Nilesh B
    |

    +Man
    What an innocent answer? But this is what is called as the “Tradition of Taqiyya”. I am reading the quran which is published in KSA (hope you know it is Kingdom of Saudi Arabia).

    Just answer few questions:

    1. Why Saudi Arabia dont allow muslim immigration where they are supposed to follow for the sake of Islamic Ummah?
    Ans. They consider only Arabs are true muslims. Rest all muslims are slaves of Arabs and converted for the sake of Arabs to pleasure them and serve them. Read the real stories and you will find out. I will tell you one. I have visited Arabia and all the non Arabic muslims like muslims from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Indonesia are working only in airport toilets in Arab countries.

    2. Why muslims are Traitors in US UK Europe and Asia?
    Ans. Its simple and connected with question one. Arabs didnt allow immigration to muslims because as per them you all are slaves and pigs going to Arabia to fill your stomach and they humiliate you non Arabic muslims in all possible ways. They have demolised the house of Muhammad and Khadijah and a big toilet stands there now where all muslims of the world piss in it 24×7. They have demolished everything belonging to Muhammad because according to them uttering name of Muhammad is also shirk because Allah is the only one whose name who have to utter. So we support Saudi in it. There are only two things left which are under demolition. You know that? The mosque where Muhammad prayed and his grave. But they will be no more. Dr. Zakir Naik also supports the Wahabbi Saudis.

    The muslims came as immigrants in US UK Europe. They got food shelter and clothing. But now they are creating a hole in the plate in which they have ate food because they are demanding Sharia in UK US and Europe. And you are so innocent thay you dont know all this. Right?

    Its a shame that a non muslim have to explain you what muslim Jihad is? Read for yourself and tell all your muslim brothers and sisters. I can tell you about all sura’s from quran. And hope you know that the quran sura’s supersedes each other. The second one will supersede the first. if you dont know then I have just told you.

    And yes as per your the hadiths are abrogated. Then why dont you burn all the hadiths and kill all the muslim people who have abrogated or even today abrogating it.

    Anyways you are no good in debating with me because you dont have any knowledge. You are just a normal muslim and doing what is being told to you but ask M.A.Khan who used his brain and came out of Islam. Below extract which you will read about Jihad is by M.A.Khan. He was an Indian muslim but no more muslim now and his book Islamic Jihad has exposed the evil cult of Islamic Jihad which I can see when I read the Quran and Jihad.

    Jihad in the Hadith:

    While non-Muslims often treat the Qur’an as if it were the only Islamic text, the literature of Islam is vast and spans many centuries. Next to the Qur’an in importance is the Hadith, which refers to collections of traditions about what Muhammad said, what he taught, and what he did. These collections are also called Sunna or “tradition”; hence the term Sunni Muslims, or “traditional” Muslims. Opposed to them are the Shi’ites, who broke away originally because of a dispute over succession to the caliphate, and who do not grant the same authority to the Hadith. (The proportion of Sunni Muslims to Shi’ites is roughly 85% – 15%.)

    Muslims naturally felt a need to preserve traditions about the Prophet from the time of the earliest witnesses. However, over the years since Muhammad’s death some of these traditions became embellished and others were fabricated. In the ninth century a number of Islamic scholars undertook the task of sifting the genuine traditions from the spurious and of gathering the former in written collections. In Sunni Islam six of these collections in particular are considered sahih (“reliable”). These sahih sittah (“reliable collections”) are:

    •Sahih Bukhari, compiled by the Imam Muhammad ibn-Ismail al-Bukhari (810-870).

    •Sahih Muslim, compiled by Muslim ibn al-Hajjaj al-Qushayri (821-975).

    •Sunan Abu Dawud, compiled by Abu Dawud as-Sijistani (d. 888).

    •Sunan ibn Majah, compiled by Muhammad ibn Majah (d. 896).

    •Sunan At-Tirmidhi, compiled by Abi ‘Eesaa Muhammad At-Tirmidhi (824-893).

    •Sunan An-Nasai, compiled by Ahmad ibn Shu’ayb an-Nasai (d. 915).

    All these collections of hadith are highly respected in the Sunni tradition, but the first two even more than the others, and so they are given the additional specific designation of sahih. And of those two, Sahih Bukhari is considered the most important and most reliable. Those ahadith occurring in both the Bukhari and Muslim collections have the highest status of all.

    Only One Jihad:

    These compilations of hadith are voluminous, and they have a lot to say about jihad. However, before going to these classic collections, we should begin by looking at one hadith that is very often quoted to demonstrate a nonviolent meaning of jihad:

    Upon his return from battle Muhammad said, “We have returned from the lesser jihad to the greater jihad (i.e. the struggle against the evil of one’s soul).” (1)

    This is very often cited as a proof-text for the “real” meaning of jihad being inward, spiritual struggle. But there are two problems:

    1. Even a “lesser” jihad is still jihad and thus a duty and a virtue.

    2. Muhammad never made such a statement.

    The hadith in which Muhammad is said to speak of “greater” vs. “lesser” jihad is of doubtful authenticity. It does not appear in any of the six collections of the sahih sittah. In fact, a number of scholars maintain that this hadith is a forgery (2). One scholar analyzes this hadith and considers a number of factors, such as chain of transmission and other more reliable, contradictory ahadith (3). He quotes one authority:

    “There is a Hadith related by a group of people which states that the Prophet [peace be upon him] said after the battle of Tabuk: ‘We have returned from Jihad Asghar [lesser jihad] to Jihad Akbar [greater jihad].’ This hadith has no source, nobody whomsoever in the field of Islamic Knowledge has narrated it. Jihad against the disbelievers is the most noble of actions, and moreover it is the most important action for the sake of mankind.”

    And so after a meticulous examination of sources the article comes to a decision:

    On the basis of the above statements we can conclude by saying, that the evidence used as proof or the basis for establishing that Jihad against disbelievers on the battlefield is Jihad Asghar [lesser jihad] and Jihad against the desires and Shaitaan [Satan, the devil] is Jihad Akbar [greater jihad], are weak if not false Hadith.

    One of the counter-hadith with a better chain of transmission (and the author quotes others as well) goes like this:

    A man asked [the Prophet]: “…and what is Jihad?” He [peace be upon him] replied: “You fight against the disbelievers when you meet them (on the battlefield).” He asked again: “What kind of Jihad is the highest?” He [peace be upon him] replied: “The person who is killed whilst spilling the last of his blood.”

    This seems to leave little doubt as to how Muhammad understood jihad. But let us not make the case on just one example. There are many ahadith on jihad, and they make its meaning quite clear. First and foremost, jihad meant combat on the battlefield, and specifically against non-Muslims.

    Jihad as Fighting the Nonbeliever

    The following sequence of ahadith will clarify this. Many of these are extremely well attested, occurring multiple times in the most trusted collections, the Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim. I will cite some of these multiple attestations just to show the high status of these ahadith. (The numbering of ahadith may vary in different editions. In all of the following quotations I have used the Hadith database of the Muslim Students’ Association of the University of Southern California [4]. For purposes of readability I do not quote in full the isnad (chain of attribution) of each hadith, but these are considered important to establishing authenticity and are included in the original sources.)

    Reading through the hadith on the subject of jihad, what we do not find is an exclusive emphasis on self-defense or on struggling with one’s desires. Jihad is physical combat, not just for self-defense but for the purpose of spreading Islam, and there is no greater virtue:

    I asked the Prophet, “What is the best deed?” He replied, “To believe in Allah and to fight for His Cause.” (Sahih Bukhari, 3:46:694, Sahih Muslim, 1:149)

    It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Sa’id Khudri that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said (to him): Abu Sa’id, whoever cheerfully accepts Allah as his Lord, Islam as his religion and Muhammad as his Apostle is necessarily entitled to enter Paradise. He (Abu Sa’id) wondered at it and said: Messenger of Allah, repeat it for me. He (the Messenger of Allah) did that and said: There is another act which elevates the position of a man in Paradise to a grade one hundred (higher), and the elevation between one grade and the other is equal to the height of the heaven from the earth. He (Abu Sa’id) said: What is that act? He replied: Jihad in the way of Allah! Jihad in the way of Allah! (Sahih Muslim, 20:4645)

    The true purpose of jihad, to spread the Muslim faith, is spelled out explicitly:

    Allah’s Apostle said: “I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against the people until they testify that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that Muhammad is Allah’s Apostle, and offer the prayers perfectly and give the obligatory charity, so if they perform a that, then they save their lives an property from me except for Islamic laws and then their reckoning (accounts) will be done by Allah.” (Sahih Bukhari, 1:2:24 [see also 4:52:196])

    It is reported on the authority of Abu Huraira that he heard the Messenger of Allah say: I have been commanded to fight against people, till they testify to the fact that there is no god but Allah, and believe in me (that) I am the messenger (from the Lord) and in all that I have brought. And when they do it, their blood and riches are guaranteed protection on my behalf except where it is justified by law, and their affairs rest with Allah. (Sahih Muslim, 1:31 [see also 1:130, 1:32, 1:33])

    The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them. They will have the same rights as the Muslims have, and have the same responsibilities as the Muslims have. (Sunan Abu Dawud, 14:2635)

    A man came to the Prophet and asked, “A man fights for war booty; another fights for fame and a third fights for showing off; which of them fights in Allah’s Cause?” The Prophet said, “He who fights that Allah’s Word (i.e. Islam) should be superior, fights in Allah’s Cause.” (Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:65 [see also 9:93:550 and Sahih Muslim, 20:4684, 20:4685, 20:4686, 20:4687])

    It is perhaps significant that those who never tire of quoting the Qur’an on “There is no compulsion in religion” (see previous section) also never mention these ahadith.

    The rewards of fighting in jihad are tremendous, not to be compared with anything else:

    The Prophet said, “A single endeavor (of fighting) in Allah’s Cause in the forenoon or in the afternoon is better than the world and whatever is in it.” (Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:50 [see also 4:52:51, 4:52:52, and Sahih Muslim, 20:4643])

    Allah’s Apostle said, “Allah guarantees him who strives in His Cause and whose motivation for going out is nothing but Jihad in His Cause and belief in His Word, that He will admit him into Paradise (if martyred) or bring him back to his dwelling place, whence he has come out, with what he gains of reward and booty.” (Sahih Bukhari, 4:53:352 [see also 9:93:549, 9:93:555, and 1:2:35 which adds: “…and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah’s cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause.”])

    It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira who said: Allah has undertaken to provide for one who leaves his home (only) to fight for His cause and to affirm the truth of His word; Allah will either admit him to Paradise or will bring him back home from where he had come out, with his reward and booty. (Sahih Muslim, 20:4628)

    Many ahadith tell us that the surest way to Paradise is to fight in jihad. Here are just a couple more:

    Allah’s Apostle said, “Know that Paradise is under the shades of swords.” (Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:73 [see also 4:52:210, and Sahih Muslim, 20:4681])

    It has been reported on the authority of Jabir that a man said: Messenger of Allah, where shall I be if I am killed? He replied: In Paradise. The man threw away the dates he had in his hand and fought until he was killed (i. e. he did not wait until he could finish the dates). (Sahih Muslim, 20:4678)

    The High Value of Martyrdom

    This elevation of jihad to the highest of virtues makes martyrdom something especially to be prized. There are many, many ahadith that extol and encourage martyrdom.

    It has been narrated on the authority of Masruq Who said: We asked ‘Abdullah about the Qur’anic verse: “Think not of those who are slain in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they are alive, finding their sustenance in the presence of their Lord” (Qur’an 3:169). He said: We asked the meaning of the verse (from the Holy Prophet) who said: The souls of the martyrs live in the bodies of green birds who have their nests in chandeliers hung from the throne of the Almighty. They eat the fruits of Paradise from wherever they like and then nestle in these chandeliers. (Sahih Muslim, 20:4651)

    There is of course the very celebrated tradition that martyrs from jihad go immediately to Paradise where they are rewarded with 72 virgins. The following verses in the Qur’an provide the foundation, although the number of virgins is not specified:

    Let those fight in the cause of Allah Who sell the life of this world for the hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of Allah, – whether he is slain or gets victory – Soon shall We give him a reward of great (value). (4:74)

    As to the Righteous (they will be) in a position of Security, among Gardens and Springs; dressed in fine silk and in rich brocade, they will face each other; So; and We shall join them to Companions with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. (44:51-54)

    As to the Righteous, they will be in Gardens, and in Happiness, – Enjoying the (Bliss) which their Lord hath bestowed on them, and their Lord shall deliver them from the Penalty of the Fire. (To them will be said:) “Eat and drink ye, with profit and health, because of your (good) deeds.” They will recline (with ease) on Thrones (of dignity) arranged in ranks; and We shall join them to Companions, with beautiful, big, and lustrous eyes. (52:17-20)

    They will recline on Carpets, whose inner linings will be of rich brocade: the Fruit of the Gardens will be near (and easy of reach). Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny? In them will be (Maidens), chaste, restraining their glances, whom no man or Jinn before them has touched. (55:54-59 [see also 55:70-74])

    And on Thrones (of Dignity), raised high. We have created (their Companions) of special creation. And made them virgin – pure (and undefiled), – Beloved (by nature), equal in age, – For the Companions of the Right Hand. (56:34-38)

    Verily for the Righteous there will be a fulfilment of (the heart’s) desires; Gardens enclosed, and grapevines; And voluptuous women of equal age; And a cup full (to the brim). (78:31-34)

    And so from the Qur’an itself we see that sex is a reward for the faithful in Paradise. These “companions” are the houris of renown, beautiful young maidens. They will even be virgins, “whom no man or Jinn before them has touched.”

    We get the number 72 by way of hadith. In the Sunan At-Tirmidhi, which is one of the six basic collections, we find the following (5):

    The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: “The smallest reward for the people of Paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 wives, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a [Yemen]” (Sunan At-Tirmidhi, 4:21:2687)

    There has been some debate on whether only martyrs get the 72 virgins or whether everyone [male] in Paradise gets them. However, the tradition of the virgins has been used often and effectively as an inducement to martyrdom (6).

    Martyrdom is so highly valued that the truly devoted Muslim would wish to return to earth many times in order to repeat the experience.

    The Prophet said, “Nobody who dies and finds good from Allah (in the Hereafter) would wish to come back to this world even if he were given the whole world and whatever is in it, except the martyr who, on seeing the superiority of martyrdom, would like to come back to the world and get killed again (in Allah’s Cause).” (Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:53)

    The Prophet said, “By Him in Whose Hands my life is! Were it not for some men amongst the believers who dislike to be left behind me and whom I cannot provide with means of conveyance, I would certainly never remain behind any Sariya’ (army-unit) setting out in Allah’s Cause. By Him in Whose Hands my life is! I would love to be martyred in Allah’s Cause and then get resurrected and then get martyred, and then get resurrected again and then get martyred and then get resurrected again and then get martyred. (Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:54)

    The Prophet said, “Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid who wishes to return to the world so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives (from Allah).” Narrated Al-Mughira bin Shu’ba: Our Prophet told us about the message of our Lord that “Whoever amongst us is killed will go to Paradise.” Umar asked the Prophet, “Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and their’s (i.e. those of the Pagans) will go to the (Hell) fire?” The Prophet said, “Yes.” (Sahih Bukhari, 4:52:72 [see also Sahih Muslim, 20:4635)

    It is praiseworthy both to seek death as a martyr and to love it:

    Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone fights in Allah’s path as long as the time between two milkings of a she-camel, Paradise will be assured for him. If anyone sincerely asks Allah for being killed and then dies or is killed, there will be a reward of a martyr for him. (Sunan Abu Dawud, 14:2535)

    It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say:… “By the Being in Whose Hand is my life, I love that I should be killed in the way of Allah; then I should be brought back to life and be killed again in His way.” (Sahih Muslim, 20:4631 [see also 20:4626])

    I love that I should be killed in the way of Allah: the Prophet’s wish for death has become the battle cry of today’s terrorists. Is there any wonder why so many become suicide killers? It is not an act of desperation. It is an expression of the passion that has motivated jihad fighters ever since the time of Muhammad. We in the West cannot understand it, so we try to psychoanalyze it, or we ask obsessively, “Why do they hate us?” The answer to why so many choose death is right here in the earliest sources. And it is not entirely unique. Perhaps many Westerners can understand it better if they recall how the early Christian martyrs desired so ardently to die for Christ, and sought out such a death as a way of securing eternal bliss. The urge to become a martyr through sacrificing one’s life to a higher cause is not as unique, foreign, or inexplicable as we might wish to believe.

    Here are the words of St. Ignatius of Antioch, a Christian martyr of the early second century, from a letter he wrote to discourage others from interfering in his death:

    I am writing to all the churches to let it be known that I will gladly die for God if only you do not stand in my way. I plead with you: show me no untimely kindness. Let me be food for the wild beasts, for they are my way to God. I am God’s wheat and bread. Pray to Christ for me that the animals will be the means of making me a sacrificial victim for God. (7)

    So perhaps it should not surprise us that a religious vision can serve as a motivation for desiring and seeking death. But there is one big difference between the Christian and Muslim martyrs. Christian martyrdom did not require death in combat against nonbelievers.

    Indeed, not to desire death in battle against the infidel is considered shameful:

    It has been narrated on the authority of Abu Huraira that the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: One who died but did not fight in the way of Allah nor did he express any desire (or determination) for Jihid died the death of a hypocrite. (Sahih Muslim, 20:4696)

    Martyrdom vs. Suicide

    But, some object, doesn’t Islam forbid suicide? How can being a suicide bomber be considered Islamic?

    Let’s look at the basis in the Qur’an for the prohibition against suicide:

    O ye who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves in vanities: But let there be amongst you Traffic and trade by mutual good-will: Nor kill (or destroy) yourselves: for verily Allah hath been to you Most Merciful! If any do that in rancour and injustice, – soon shall We cast them into the Fire: And easy it is for Allah. (4:29-30)

    Although these verses are often cited to show that the Qur’an forbids suicide, the wording is ambiguous. Most translations say “Do not kill each other,” and that most likely is the original meaning. In any event, there is an escape clause. The prohibition holds “if any do that in rancor and injustice.” The mujahid always believes he is fighting for justice!

    The prohibition against suicide comes not from the Qur’an but from the hadith:

    If somebody commits suicide with anything in this world, he will be tortured with that very thing on the Day of Resurrection. (Sahih Bukhari, 8:73:73 [see also 2:23:445, 2:23:446, 8:73:126, 8:78:647])

    But does this apply to someone who kills himself for the purpose of fighting in jihad?

    Many Islamic authorities say no. They make a distinction between suicide and martyrdom. The motivation for each is entirely different. And so one scholar gleans the classical Islamic sources for evidence that one may seek martyrdom by fighting even when one knows one is going to die. His conclusion:

    It is important to know that suicide is forbidden because of its evil objectives; such as impatience, desperation or any other bad and evil objects….

    On the other hand, the one who contributes his life to the cause of Allah, Islam and Muslims his doing is sacrificial; he gives his life away for Islam and Muslims, which is the highest sacrifice. (8)

    Daniel Pipes, a scholar of Islamic history, affirms this conclusion:

    Islamists consider suicide as not just legitimate but highly commendable when undertaken for reasons of jihad (sacred war). Going into war knowing with certainty that one will die, they argue, is not suicide (intihar) but martyrdom (istishhad), a much-praised form of self-sacrifice in the path of God, a way to win the eternal affection of the houris in paradise.

    A leading Islamist authority, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, recently explained the distinction this way: attacks on enemies are not suicide operations but “heroic martyrdom operations” in which the kamikazes act not “out of hopelessness and despair but are driven by an overwhelming desire to cast terror and fear into the hearts of the oppressors.”

    In other words, Islamists find suicide for personal reasons abominable, suicide for jihad admirable. (9)

    The earliest sources express both the prohibition on suicide and the encouragement to fight to the death in a sacred cause. In fact, the latter receives far more emphasis in the classical sources. Undeniably, it has inspired Muslim jihad fighters over many centuries to risk their lives for the cause of advancing Muslim rule. Today some Islamic authorities may emphasize the forbidding of suicide, and some may emphasize the virtue of martyrdom. Which will ultimately prevail can be decided only within Islam itself. But one cannot say that suicide fighting is by its very nature un-Islamic. In fact, it is not new. In the same article Daniel Pipes notes the existence of jihad suicide nearly a thousand years ago:

    Jihad suicide has been around for a millennium. The Assassins, a fanatical religious sect that flourished in the twelfth century developed jihad suicide into a powerful tool of war that succeeded in killing dozens of leaders and cast a long shadow over the region’s politics for decades.

    And certainly there is no prohibition on terrorism when suicide is not involved. When seen as a sacred struggle against non-believers, terrorism by any means becomes a virtue, whether or not one knows one’s life will be forfeit. As Ibn Warraq states, when the two values collide, martyrdom trumps suicide:

    Those who blow themselves up almost daily in Israel and those who died on September 11 were dying in the noblest of all causes, Jihad, which is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Koran and in the Traditions as a divine institution, and enjoined for the purpose of advancing Islam. While suicide is forbidden, martyrdom is everywhere praised, welcomed, and urged. (10)

    Recall the words of the hadith cited earlier: “If anyone sincerely asks Allah for being killed and then dies or is killed, there will be a reward of a martyr for him.” According to the hadith, which is the source of the prohibition against causing one’s own death, Jihad is the great exception.

    The Extent of Jihad

    Just before we close, a couple more ahadith demonstrating that jihad does not stop with self-defense, but that its real purpose is to promote the supremacy of Islam over other religions:

    One of the last things that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said was, “May Allah fight the Jews and the Christians. They took the graves of their Prophets as places of prostration. Two [religions] shall not co-exist in the land of the Arabs.” (Malik’s Muwatta, 45:5:17)

    It has been narrated by ‘Umar b. al-Khattib that he heard the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) say: I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. (Sahih Muslim, 19:4366)

    The high value placed on jihad and martyrdom is well attested in the earliest Islamic sources. Whether or not it should extend to pushing a button on a suicide vest, the passion that fires today’s terrorists comes straight from the words of the Prophet.

    Conclusion

    “I love that I should be killed in the way of Allah.” – The Prophet Muhammad

    “You love life and we love death, which gives an example of what the Prophet Muhammad said.”

  16. John Islam
    |

    I havr said before I saw it coming.
    My articles written before the Charlie Hebdo came true..

    you all kafir are done deal.
    as usual after we muslim killed in the name of allah… the whole liberal poticians and media praise Islam and fool all you kafir that ” this is not islam” mantra….
    and all who spoke hate of muslim are marked for shame, ridicule, bigot, islamophobic..etc

    all you western kafir will lose this war..
    there is no turning back.. we muslim have burried you alive and there is no one to save you.. we are now at the stage of put hammering the nail into your coffin and seal it for good.
    the best part is all liberals do our dirty job and when the liberals have annihilate all kafir.. we will come for the liberals.. made no mistske about it…

    Charlie Hebdo do the right thing and publish .. ” all is forgiven”…
    you see hiw stupidity kill… we can”‘t help but laugh at all you kafir…
    no where in any recorded history when a civiliazation is on the brink of oblterated came to us for forgivessness….
    all pacifis will evnteully be defeated.
    wr muslim will never be pacifis.. ask the buddhist how come they are wipe out in Stan countries..?
    pacifis… the xtians has been pacifis and we took advanatge….
    i dun wanna write too much as though i still have kafir blood.. i feel so ashame of all you kafir for not standing to evil and i put my family to be muslim extreamist type so just that they will not go through the awful horror when muslim conqured the world in 40 years time…over to you now… said enough
    praise to allah and ensure muslim victory… i sacrifice giod for evil and please do all the astrocities to kafir but not to my children for they have converted to islam.. guide them to be as evil as ISIS and bring it to the next level… alaahu ahkbat..

    • Nilesh B
      |

      ++Johan Islam

      Ha ha ha I am laughing at your stupidity. Because how many times you are showing that you are stupid. You feel you are conquering but the coin has other side which you will see in coming years. But I wont tell you how. But muslims already know about it. You have tried it before also. Remember you captured Spain and then you were thrown out. Then you again tried in WWII and we have ended your Caliphate itself.

      Now since 90 years you are trying but this time also you are living in your own dreams. Please remember the name “Mustafa Kemal” Read about him and you will understand how a muslim has helped non muslims to end Caliphate. Ha ha ha you all are stupid illeterate non educated non Arabic Muhammad muslims. Muhammad is your intercessor to Allah. You are polyethiest not monoethiest because Muhammad is your god and he will never succeed. His dream was to conquer and turn world into Islam.

      Just count from 600 to 2100. Such a big period and you stupid illeterate non educated non Arabic Muhammad muslims are still dreaming. Ha ha ha I can’t stop my laughing. You all stupid illeterate non educated non Arabic Muhammad muslims are controlled by the Oil Rich Arab Mafia. Your girls, daughters, sisters, aunts, wives are all used by Arabs you stupid illeterate non educated non Arabic Muhammad muslims. You know this but you have closed your eyes. But you will see it soon.

      Dont forget that the western world control the oil rich mafia and when the westerns destroyed Iraq all neighbouring Arabs didnt say anything because the Sunni’s want to wipe out Shia’s. You know how you are going to end yourselves. Then read for yourself below:

      The Muslims..! One Allah, One Quran, One Nebi….! Great unity?
      Among Muslims, Shia and Sunni kill each other in all Muslim countries.
      The religious riot in most Muslim countries is always between these two sects.
      The Shia will not go to Sunni osque.
      These two will not go to Ahamadiya mosque.
      These three will not go to Sufi mosque.
      The four will not go to Mujahiddin mosque.
      Like this there are more than 13 castes in muslims (Hope you know Pakistan)
      Killing, Bombing, Raping, Conquering, Massacring, Looting each other!!!!
      American attack on Iraq was fully supported and sponsored by all Muslim Arab countries surrounding Iraq!!
      One Allah, One Quran, One Nabi???
      But what happened?? your own people want to kill you.
      So dont worry about Kafirs because the Kafirs do their Jihad very well.
      Worry about yourself.
      By the way Who are you?
      Sunni? Shia? Ahamadi?Sufi? Mujahiddin? or some other like Balochi, Punjabi or some bloody dirty third or fourth class working in toilets of Arabian airports like the Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi or Indonesian stupid illeterate non educated non Arabic Muhammad muslims.

      If you still want to dream of turning the world into Islam and bringing Caliphate back please go ahead because we are not at all bothered and worried about your dirty stupid illeterate non educated Arabic Muhammad thoughts. Just go ahead and keep dreaming. Best of Luck to you….

      But please start studying and getting real facts. The Arab Sunnis are making every effort to finish all other muslim races for supremacy. ha ha ha and we are watching it. For that if we offer you some females that doesnt bother us. But on the other side we are enjoying alot with all the muslima’s.

      Best of Luck Kafir!!!!

  17. Nilesh B
    |

    ++ The Man

    illegal jihad in the Quran and early Islam (The truth about the rules of Islamic warfare):
    Muslim spokespersons who have access to the news media are misleading the public about jihad.

    The Council on American Muslim Relations (CAIR) says the following about jihad at the time this present article was posted:

    “Jihad” does not mean “holy war.” Literally, jihad means to strive, struggle and exert effort. It is a central and broad Islamic concept that includes struggle against evil inclinations within oneself, struggle to improve the quality of life in society, struggle in the battlefield for self-defense (e.g., – having a standing army for national defense), or fighting against tyranny or oppression.

    In reply, however, while it is true that a Muslim may wage jihad on the excess in his soul or on unbelief by non-violent means like argumentation, jihad must also include a military, violent war.

    Also, the clauses that say that jihad means the struggle to improve “the quality of life” or the fight against “tyranny and oppression” are ambiguous. Islam expresses the will of Allah, and jihad battles anything that stands in its way.

    By any clear reading of the Quran, the hadith (reports of Muhammad’s words and actions outside of the Quran), the histories, the biographies and the law books on early Islam, jihad cannot exclude military warfare in the cause of Allah in order to expand Islam.

    Here is how jihad was done in early Islam.

    The Quran

    The Quran is the ultimate source for later legal opinions. It is considered completely reliable and inerrant. What does it say about jihad?

    What is the purpose or goal of jihad?

    A complicated policy like jihad can have multiple goals or purposes, but this one comes late in Muhammad’s life in Medina and best summarizes the goal and purpose. He wants to make Islam prevail over every religion.

    The following translation is approved and funded by the Saudi Royal family; the parenthetical explanations are inserted by the translators:

    9:33 It is He Who has sent His Messenger (Muhammad) with guidance and the religion of truth, to make it superior over all religions, though the Mushrikûn (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) hate (it). (Hilali and Khan, The Noble Qur’an, Riyadh: Darussalam, 1996, 2002; parenthetical notes are theirs)

    This verse is repeated two more times, word for word, in Suras 61:9 and 48:28. Muhammad means business.

    The Arabic word for “to make it superior” comes from the root z-h-r, which means “to become distinct, obvious, conspicuous, or manifest; to ascend or to mount; to have the upper hand.” It can also mean “triumph” or “victorious” or “prevail.”

    Seekers and the curious about Islam must understand this brute fact as they read the Quran: in the ten years that Muhammad lived in Medina (AD 622-632), he either sent out or went out on seventy-four small assassination hit squads, raids, expeditions, small battles, or full-scale wars like the Tabuk Crusade in AD 630, in which Muhammad led 30,000 soldiers north to invade the Byzantine empire. Sometimes the conflicts did not end in violence, but too many times they did. All verses (and there are not many) in the Medinan suras that seem to speak of peace and tolerance must be read in light of this violent historical context. Not far from the few tolerant verses the reader will find intolerant and violent verses.

    Sura 9:33, simply put, predicts the conquest of Islam over all religions. Islam must dominate the world through jihad.

    For a more detailed analysis of this verse and Suras 61:9 and 48:28, such as the literary and historical contexts, please see this article.

    What are some rules of jihad?

    These rules are numbered for clarity, not priority.

    1. Conquered women and children may be enslaved.

    In AD 627 Muhammad and his followers and allies withstood a large army of Meccans and their allies, without ever slugging it out in pitched battle. The Meccans attacked Muhammad because they were fed up with his aggressions against their trade. He dug trenches in spots around Medina to diminish the advantage that the Meccans had with their cavalry. After about a month the Meccans withdrew because of a fair that was about to begin, and this large gathering from all over brought in money. But Muhammad was not finished. While he was bathing, the archangel Gabriel allegedly appeared to him and told him to attack the large Qurayza tribe of Jews. He besieged them in their fortress, and after some negotiations and a “trial,” the men were beheaded and their bodies and heads dragged and tossed into the trenches, whereas the women and children were sold into slavery.

    These three verses, especially v. 26, in Sura 33 deal with this indefensible atrocity:

    33:25 Allah turned back the unbelievers [Meccans and their allies] in a state of rage, having not won any good, and Allah spared the believers battle [q-t-l]. Allah is, indeed, Strong and Mighty. 26 And He brought those of the People of the Book [Qurayza] who supported them from their fortresses and cast terror into their hearts, some of them you slew [q-t-l] and some you took captive. 27 And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden. Allah has power over everything. (Majid Fakhry, An Interpretation of the Quran, NYUP, 2000, 2004)

    These verses seem to celebrate death and conquest. The key root word in brackets, q-t-l or qital or qatala, means killing, warring, and slaughtering. This meaning is much more restricted than jihad, though this latter word can also mean killing, warring, or slaughtering. Next, Allah permits the enslavement of Qurayza women and children, so later Muslim familiar with the background of this verse will follow their prophet in this practice. Finally, Allah permits Muhammad to take the Jewish clan’s property on the basis of conquest and his possession of all things. This is a dubious revelation and reasoning. Allah speaks, and this benefits Muhammad materially. This happens too often in Muhammad’s life.

    Selling humans into slavery produced a lot of wealth, so the Allah-inspired prophet never got a revelation that this practice should stop permanently and forever.

    Muslim apologists (defenders of Islam), understandably, are quick to explain (away) this atrocity against the Qurayza, but their standard lines of defense have been answered here (scroll down to “Politics, Warfare, and Conquest,” and point no. 5).

    2. Women captives are sometimes forced to marry their Muslim masters, regardless of the marital status of the women. That is, the masters are allowed to have sex with the enslaved sex objects.

    Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, a highly respected Muslim commentator, reminds us that the historical context of the next sura finds Muhammad establishing rules for his community within two to five years after his Hijrah (Emigration) in AD 622. He lays down laws for marriage. What happens to slave women who are captured during the raids that the Muslims go on frequently? Sura 4:24 says:

    4:24 And forbidden to you are wedded wives of other people except those who have fallen in your hands (as prisoners of war) . . . (Sayyid A’La Abul Maududi, The Meaning of the Quran, vol. 1, p. 319).

    Maududi says in his comment on the verse that is it lawful for Muslims to marry women prisoners of war even when their husbands are still alive. But what happens if the husbands are captured with their wives? Maududi cites a school of law that says Muslims may not marry them, but two other schools, notably one that is analyzed under “Classical legal opinions,” below, say that the marriage between the captive husbands and wives is broken (note 44). But why would a debate over this emerge? The answer is obvious for those who understand simple justice. No sex or marriage should take place between married female prisoners of war and their captors. In fact, no sex should take place between women captives and their Muslim overlords. But Islam traffics in injustice too often, as we saw with the Qurayza tribe.

    Islam allows deep immorality with women who are in their most helpless condition. This crime is reprehensible, but Allah wills it nonetheless—the Quran says so.

    For more information on this immorality, see this short article and the entry on “Rape” in the Index.

    The hadith, in the next major section, demonstrate that Muslims jihadists actually have sex with the captured women, whether or not they are married.

    3. A captured enemy may be killed, ransomed by money or by an exchange, enslaved, or released freely.

    Sura 33:26 speaks of killing captured men and enslaving women and children (the same may be done to men in other battles, as the hadith and history demonstrate). A verse that comes earlier in the same sura says that after the captives are bound firmly, they may be released by freely or by ransom.

    47:4 When you meet the disbelievers in battle, strike them in the neck, and once they are defeated, bind any captives firmly—later you can release them by grace or by ransom—until the toils of war have ended. That [is the way]. (Haleem)

    Imprisonment may be just if the captured enemy may return to fight against the conquerors at a later time. But selling prisoners of war either into slavery or back to their clan was an Arab custom that Allah should have abolished in a revelation to his prophet. But why should Muhammad receive this just revelation when money could be made by ransoming prisoners or selling them into slavery?

    Allah should have taken away this option and allowed only free release or imprisonment.

    4. The conquered are allowed (or forced) to convert.

    In Sura 8, which deals with the Battle of Badr in AD 624, Muhammad proposes these options to his captives.

    8:70 Prophet, tell those you have taken captive, “If God knows of any good in your hearts, He will give you something better [Islam] than what has been taken from you [the caravan], and He will forgive you” . . . (Haleem)

    Muhammad tells them that if the conquered Meccans had any sense, they would realize that Allah had a divine plan: expose them to Islam. This is better than all the material riches they can trade in. However, it is not difficult to imagine a Meccan muttering under his breath that he would prefer to take his money and goods and return to Mecca, wanting Muhammad to stop harassing the Meccans’ trade.

    Also, it is laughable for the prophet to offer only Islam in lieu of the Meccans’ material goods. Preaching religion at newly captured prisoners and justifying the aggressive Battle of Badr that robbed the Meccan of their caravan is misguided. Why not return their goods? Why go out on this raid in the first place?

    5. Is it lawful to kill old men and Christian monks?

    One school of law in the section “Classical legal opinions,” below, says that it is legal to kill old men and monks. Where may they get this opinion? We should recall that Sura 33:26 says that all the men of the Qurayza tribe were killed, so that verse alone justifies this atrocity. It is possible that the school of law analyzed in the section “Classical legal opinions,” below, justifies the death of monks from two passages.

    First, Allah says to fight Jews and Christians or People of the Book in Sura 9, the historical context of which has been discussed above (“What is the purpose or goal of jihad?”):

    9:29 Fight [q-t-l] against those who believe not in Allah, nor in the Last Day, nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. (Hilali and Khan)

    Then Muhammad condemns rabbis and monks who devour the property of people and bar them from following the path of Allah (read: convert to Islam) in the same sura:

    9:33 O believers [Muslims], many of the rabbis and monks devour the property of the people unjustly and bar others from the Path of Allah [Islam]. Those who hoard gold and silver and do not spend them in Allah’s path, announce to them a very painful punishment. (Fakhry)

    It is true that Muhammad goes on to explain an eternal hellish punishment for monks (v. 35), but it is not farfetched to believe that a strict school of law would combine the command to fight People of the Book (v. 29), with the condemnation of unjust and greedy monks. Why would these monks not be the first ones to be killed in a battle? However, it may be the case that the strict school of law may justify their deaths simply because they are Christian leaders.

    6. Property may be stolen.

    Muhammad fought the Battle of Badr in AD 624, in which 320 or so Muslims won a surprise victory over about 1000 Meccans. Their caravan was traveling south from Syria back to Mecca, and Muhammad intended to capture it. The Meccans got word of this raid and sent their army up to meet their caravan. Sura 8 deals with this (in)famous battle, and this verse says that Muhammad wanted the unarmed group (the large caravan), but Allah gave him not only that one, but also the armed group so that truth may prevail.

    8:7 Remember how God promised you [believers] that one of the two enemy groups [The Meccan trade caravan or their army] would fall to you: you wanted the unarmed group to be yours, but it was God’s will to establish the truth according to His word and to finish off the disbelievers (MAS Abdel Haleem, The Qu’ran, Oxford UP, 2004)

    This verse says that only the Muslims wanted the caravan or material goods, whereas Muhammad rose above such petty concerns. However, history and simple reasoning says that he too wanted the material goods. If not, then he should have given back all the goods. It is always dubious to connect God’s truth with military victory, but no matter, for Muhammad captured a huge caravan, and now he was richer than ever before.

    Also, we should not overlook Sura 33:27, quoted above, that promises all of the property of the Qurayza tribe:

    33:27 And he bequeathed to you their lands, their homes and their possessions, together with land you have never trodden. Allah has power over everything. (Fakhry)

    The word “bequeathed” is a euphemism for “stole” by conquest. As noted, timely and coincidental revelations that benefit Muhammad materially come often enough in his life.

    7. Fruit trees may be destroyed.

    In AD 625, Muhammad is strong enough to exile the Nadir tribe of Jews, besieging them in their strongholds for fifteen days until he started destroying their date palms, their livelihood. Their livelihood undergoing destruction and then theft, they departed to the city of Khaybar, seventy miles to the north, where they had estates. This takeover helped relieve the ongoing poverty of many Muslims, who took over their date orchards.

    This verse in Sura 59 justifies his illegal act:

    59:5 Whatever you [believers] may have done to [their] palm trees—cutting them down or leaving them standing on their roots—was done by God’s leave [permission], so that He might disgrace those who defied Him. (Haleem)

    This is another coincidental and timely revelation that seeks to justify the unjustifiable. Later Muslim warriors may use this practice to destroy other assets that are valuable to civilians, so this is unjust for Allah and his prophet.

    See this article for more details on the conflict with the Nadir tribe.

    8. Homes may be destroyed.

    In the same sura, Muhammad destroys the homes of the Nadir tribe.

    59:2 . . . God came upon them [Jews of the Nadir tribe] from where they least expected and put panic into their hearts: they brought ruin to their own homes by their own hands, as well as the hands of the believers [Muslims] . . . (Haleem)

    A classical opinion of one school of law (see “Classical legal opinions,” below) agrees and also says that homes may be destroyed. This is also unjust for the revelation-soaked religion of Islam.

    9. Three options are imposed on the enemy. It should be recalled that Sura 9:29 lays out some conditions for the People of the Book, when a Muslim army gathers outside their city gate, as Muslim interpreters agree:

    (1) Fight and die; (2) convert; (3) keep their religion, but pay a tax, the jizyah, which Muslim apologists (defenders) argue amounted to “protection” for the “privilege” of living under Islam (read: not be attacked again).

    This is as close as Muhammad can get to forcing the enemy to convert without technically forcing them. This policy will be worked out and further imposed after Muhammad dies of a fever in AD 632, and the policy will not always keep these fine line distinctions.

    Question:What happens to the spoils in jihad?
    Ans: As noted in the previous section, Sura 8 deals with the Muslims’ surprise victory over the Meccans at the Battle of Badr in AD 624. After their victory, Arab custom demanded that the warriors get a share of the spoils of war. Muhammad says in 8:41, “Know that one-fifth of your battle gains belongs to God and the Messenger” . . . (Haleem). That is, Muhammad gets twenty percent for himself and for the needy in his community, as he distributes it. The warriors were to get eighty percent.

    This eighty percent distribution is a strong inducement to keep the Arab custom of raiding alive. Why would Muhammad get a revelation telling him to follow the way of peace without warfare and raids? Twenty percent for him and eighty percent for his warriors speak more loudly than Gabriel.

    What happens to martyrs in jihad?

    Martyrs are guaranteed a fast track to Islamic paradise. Their deaths are depicted in economic terms. If they expend their lives as a living currency, Allah will exchange them for heavenly Islamic gardens.

    61:10 You who believe, shall I show you a bargain that will save you from painful punishment? 11 Have faith in God and His Messenger and struggle [j-h-d] for His cause with your possessions and your persons—that is better for you, if only you knew—12 and He will forgive your sins, admit you into Gardens graced with flowing streams, into pleasant dwellings in the Gardens of Eternity. That is the supreme triumph. (Haleem)

    Muslims who struggle (j-h-d) in Allah’s cause will either win the battle and live to see another day, so that they can collect some spoils of war, or they will die and have their sins forgiven and be admitted into Islamic heaven.

    Sura 9:111 carries on the economic bargain.

    9:111 God has purchased the persons and possessions of the believers for the Garden—they fight [q-t-l] in God’s way: they kill [q-t-l] and are killed [q-t-l]—this is a true promise given by Him in the Torah, the Gospel, and the Qur’an. Who could be more faithful to his promise than God? So be happy with the bargain you have made: that is the supreme triumph. (Haleem)

    Two things should be noticed here. First, the root q-t-l is used three times in this short verse. Qital or qatala, as noted in the section “What are some rules of jihad?” means killing, warring, and slaughtering and is therefore less ambiguous or has a more restricted meaning than jihad, though this latter word can mean those same bloody acts.

    Thus, if Muslim apologists (defenders) explain (away) jihad as non-violent, then they have not factored in the frequently used word qital.

    For the historical and literary contexts and a more thorough analysis of Suras 61:10 and 9:111, please refer to this article.

    If the readers would like to see the heavenly “virgin verses” in the Quran, they should go here, and type in these references: 44:51-56; 52:17-29; 55:46-78.

    This is reason enough for dazed and confused young men to join Islam and become radicalized.

    The Hadith

    The hadith are the reports of Muhammad’s words and actions outside of the Quran. The three most reliable hadith collectors and editors are Bukhari (d. 870), Muslim (d. 875), and Abu Dawud (d. 875). The Quran and the hadith are the foundations for later legal rulings.

    Question: What is the purpose or goal of jihad?
    Ans: The hadith follows the Quran in this question. Islam must be made superior over all other religions.

    A man asked Muhammad what men fight for: war booty, fame, or showing off. Muhammad replied:

    “He who fights that Allah’s word (i.e. Allah’s religion of Islamic monotheism) be superior is in Allah’s cause” (Bukhari, Jihad, no. 2810, in Muhammad Muhsin Khan’s translation and edition, Riyadh: Darussallam, 1997; this edition of Bukhari is used throughout this section).

    Allah’s religion must become superior over all other religions, a decree that echoes Suras 61:9 and 9:111, above.

    This tradition says that Muhammad will fight everyone until they confess that Allah is God and that Muhammad is his messenger.

    Allah’s Messenger [Muhammad] said: I have been ordered (by Allah) to fight against people till they say . . . (none has the right to worshiped but Allah), and whoever said [this] he saved his life and property from me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah . . . . (Bukhari, Jihad, no. 2946, cf. no. 25 and 1399)

    It is the will of Allah that Islam must spread around the world and dominate it. If people submit to Islam, then their property and lives will be safe.

    What are some rules of jihad?

    The rules are numbered for clarity, not priority. They cover the same topics in the previous section on the Quran, with only a few exceptions.

    1. Besides being enslaved, women are subjected to sex with their new Muslim masters.

    Ali, Muhammad’s cousin and son-in-law, just finished a relaxing bath. Why?

    The Prophet sent Ali to Khalid to bring the Khumus (of the booty) and . . . Ali had taken a bath (after a sexual act with a slave-girl from the Khumus).

    What was Muhammad’s response to the person who hated Ali for this sexual act? “Do you hate Ali for this? . . . Don’t hate him, for he deserves more than that from Khumus” (Bukhari, War Expeditions, no. 4350).

    Khumus is one-fifth of the war booty, and Muhammad casually believes that slave women who are part of the one-fifth can be treated like sexual property. Ali is a Muslim hero. So why would the prophet scold his son-in-law who was married to his daughter Fatima, from his first wife Khadija? After all, slaves are fair sexual game.

    2. The same sexual abuse happened to women who were part of the four-fifths of the spoils of war. Jihadists usually practiced coitus interruptus as they raped their slave women.

    While on a military campaign and away from their wives, Muslim jihadists “received captives from among the Arab captives and we desired women and celibacy became hard on us and we loved to do coitus interruptus.” They asked the holy prophet about this, and it is important to note what he did not say. He did not scold them or prohibit the immoral practice, declaring it haram (prohibited). Rather, he gets lost in theology and the quirky doctrine of fate:

    It is better for you not to do so. There is no person that is destined to exist, but will come to existence, till the Day of Resurrection.

    That is, these enquiring Muslims should stop doing coitus interruptus, but instead go all the way with the enslaved sex objects. Fate controls who should be born (Bukhari, Military Expeditions, no. 4138).

    It is one thing for some soldiers in any army to strike out on their own and rape women. All armies have criminal soldiers who commit this wrong act. But it is quite another to codify rape in a sacred text. Islam codifies and legalizes rape for conquering jihadists.

    3. In one tradition, women and children should not be killed (Bukhari, Jihad, nos. 3014-3105; Muslim nos. 4319-4320; Abu Dawud, no. 2662). But this makes economic sense, because the victors could sell them into slavery or enjoy more sexual license with them.

    4. However, in another tradition, the women and children of polytheists are permitted to be killed during nighttime raids when visibility is low.

    A Muslim asked Muhammad “about the polytheist whose settlement were attacked at night when some of their offspring and women were smitten [killed]. The Prophet . . . said: They are of them” (Abu Dawud no. 2666; Bukhari, Jihad, no. 3012; Muslim nos. 4321-4323). That is, they are all the same—they are polytheists, enough said. Ahmad Hasan, the translator of Abu Dawud, as well as Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, the translator of Muslim, are quick to add that the killing takes place at night when the men and the women and children cannot be distinguished. However, this is small comfort for the women and children who were killed. It would seem that an Allah-inspired prophet would be more cautious.

    If it was probable that women and children would get killed in a night attack, Muhammad should have forbidden these untimely attacks.

    5. The enemy may be killed, enslaved, ransomed, released freely, or beaten.

    Abu Dawud says that a captured enemy combatant may be killed (no. 2680); he may be tied with chains as a slave (no. 2671-2674); he is allowed to be beaten in order to extract information (no. 2675); he may be released freely (no. 2682-2683), or he may be ransomed; that is, he may purchase his freedom (nos. 2684-2688).

    Ibn Ishaq (d. 767) is not a collector and editor of hadith, but he is an early biographer of Muhammad; he lived a century before the three hadith editors used in this section. His book, The Life of Muhammad, (trans. A. Guillaume, Oxford UP, 1955), is a primary source for later reputable historians. He reports an egregious incident that occurred during the holy prophet’s conquest of the predominantly Jewish city of Khaybar in AD 628. In order to extract information on the location of the wealth of the city, Muhammad tortured a hapless citizen.

    See this short article for more details on Muhammad’s use of torture.

    6. Men are allowed (or forced) to convert.

    It is true that a non-Muslim could embrace Islam anytime he wished, but Islam has the messy problem of armies accompanying their preachers and their message.

    The passage in Bukhari, cited under the section “What is the purpose or goal of jihad?” says that Muhammad was ordered by Allah to call people to accept Islam (Jihad, no. 2946; cf. nos. 25 and 1399). If they convert, then their lives and property will be kept safe from him. These hadith from Bukhari make the same offer: Jihad, nos. 2937, 2940, 3010, 3058.

    This is the entire mission of Muhammad: bring the entire world under Islam, the best religion that Allah—the god of the Arabian Peninsula—has to offer. The problem with this mission is that a Muslim army lurked in the background or gathered in the foreground to this alleged “freedom of religion.” Only the strongest of the strong could resist this offer.

    7. In Islamic war, old men who are polytheists may be killed.

    “Kill the old men who are polytheists, but spare their children” (Abu Dawud, no. 2664). The translator of this hadith collection says that decrepit old men may not be killed, but how is a warrior supposed to distinguish them, except in extreme cases?

    Islam either walks on the line between morality and immorality, or it swerves over too often into immoral acts.

    8. Property may be stolen.

    In the section, “What is the purpose or goal of jihad?” a hadith says that Muhammad has been ordered by his god that he should fight until everyone says Allah is God and Muhammad is his messenger. If they do, then their property and lives are safe (Bukhari, Jihad, no. 2946; cf. nos. 25 and 1399). It is often claimed that Islam does not force conversions. But only the strongest of the strong could resist this threat. If they do not submit to this divine order, then they lose their property and lives. This actually happened throughout the many raids and wars that early Muslims embarked on.

    The rule of “to the victors go the spoils” is unjust for a religious system.

    9. Fruit trees may be destroyed.

    It should be recalled that Muhammad besieged the Nadir tribe of Jews, and they finally surrendered when he was in the process of destroying their date palm orchards and homes. These hadiths refer to this historical event and approve of it: Muslim nos. 4324-4326; Abu Dawud no. 2609).

    This is also unjust because by analogy jihadists may possibly destroy other sources of food among the civilians.

    10. Three options are imposed on the conquered.

    The hadith collector and editor Muslim says that Muhammad would exhort his jihadists to make three offers when their army surrounds a town or settlement: (1) the surrounded enemy may convert; (2) they may refuse to accept Islam and pay the jizya or poll tax, which allows non-Muslims to live under the “protection” of Islam (read: not be attacked again); or (3) they must be fought if they refuse the first two (no. 4294; see Abu Dawud no. 2606). These three options appear in Muslim’s hadith as being granted to polytheists, but history demonstrates that they were conquered or killed completely. The second option was taken away from them. But all three were offered to the People of the Book, or Jews and Christians (Sura 9:29).

    Question:What happens to the spoils in jihad?
    Ans:In the hadith collection edited by Bukhari, an entire section is called “The Book of Obligations of Khumus.” This latter word means one-fifth of the spoils of war. So twenty percent goes to Muhammad or the State, and eighty percent goes to the soldiers.

    However, this eighty percent can be divided along different lines. A horseman should get three shares, whereas an infantryman should get only two (Abu Dawud nos. 2728-2730). Another tradition distributes the spoils, as follows: two for the horseman, and one for the footman (Muslim no. 4358).

    Islam, led by Allah and Muhammad, allegedly breaks down class hierarchy, but this uneven distribution keeps it alive in the most visible way. Horses were expensive, so only the upper classes could afford them, especially in going out to war. But their share is much greater than that of the lowly infantryman.

  18. John Islam
    |

    stupid NIlesh B..
    I take it from your name you a indian hindu… ah… we muslim have destyoed your country to bits.. have split it to pakistan.. bangladesh. afganhistan..
    what say you… ?
    and ao we will divide euope and usa and australia and canada… we muslim liove pwrpectual war till eternity for without war there will be no peace..
    you know also that we have 2 worllds.. the hiuse of war.. kafir and the joise of submision.. muslim.. our duty is to bring the house of war to submitsion..
    we satanist as you called will suceed.. it is only a matter of time… read statistic moron.. islam has never decreasr… its the law of expansion and bunded by natural phenomenon.. just like death is unevetiable.. muslim will expand until no kafir walks rhe earth… and all humanity will be muslim.. yiu may ask what then??
    the asnwer is total acream of hate.. murder.. rape..beheading.. insanity evil on all living thing… this is what we muslim lioves.. fir without violence qr cannot exist… do u get it

    • knowledgeofbook
      |

      You are an idiotic non Arabic muslim and how many times I have to prove you the same again and again.

      The Muslims..! One Allah, One Quran, One Nebi….! Great unity?
      Among Muslims, Shia and Sunni kill each other in all Muslim countries.
      The religious riot in most Muslim countries is always between these two sects.
      The Shia will not go to Sunni mosque.
      These two will not go to Ahamadiya mosque.
      These three will not go to Sufi mosque.
      The four will not go to Mujahiddin mosque.
      Like this there are more than 13 castes in muslims (Hope you know Pakistan)
      Killing, Bombing, Raping, Conquering, Massacring, Looting each other!!!!
      American attack on Iraq was fully supported and sponsored by all Muslim Arab countries surrounding Iraq!!
      One Allah, One Quran, One Nabi???

      But what happened?? your own people want to kill you.
      So dont worry about Kafirs because the Kafirs do their Jihad very well.
      Worry about yourself.
      By the way Who are you?
      Sunni? Shia? Ahamadi?Sufi? Mujahiddin? or some other like Balochi, Punjabi or some bloody dirty third or fourth class working in toilets of Arabian airports like the Indian, Pakistani, Bangladeshi or Indonesian stupid illeterate non educated non Arabic Muhammad muslims.

      If you still want to dream of turning the world into Islam and bringing Caliphate back please go ahead because we are not at all bothered and worried about your dirty stupid illeterate non educated Arabic Muhammad thoughts. Just go ahead and keep dreaming. Best of Luck to you….

      But please start studying and getting real facts. The Arab Sunnis are making every effort to finish all other muslim races for supremacy. ha ha ha and we are watching it. For that if we offer you some females that doesnt bother us. But on the other side we are enjoying alot with all the muslima’s.

      What do you think? We are also waiting for it. You dont know but you will surely know soon. Already there are groups who have accepted Islam (just to show) and they are using Sharia as a shield against muslims. When time comes I will also do the same. I will start raping all the muslims and as per Sharia you need 4 witness. Right? So be ready for it as all the non muslims will very soon pretend that they have accepted ISLAM and they will be in your homes to enjoy your wives, daughters, sisters, cousins and every women who is muslim. They will know your Quran in and out just the way I know. They will speak your language and they will by heart all the Quran Sura’s.

      More often we will all accept Wahabism and anyone even taking the name of Muhammad will be killed because we will have the support of Saudi Arabia. You non Arabic idiots dont have the balls to challenge Saudi Arabia. Ha ha ha long live Wahabism. We are going to be Wahabis soon and then we will kill all muslims who are taking name of Muhammad. we will bomb all muslims who are taking part in Muhammad’s cartoon procession.

      Muslims have tried alot to capture the world but everytime they have failed. First Caliphate was ended in 10th century and regained back. Second Caliphate was ended on 03-Mar-1924. Lets see how your 3rd comes in. But this time even Saudi is killing all the muslims. I hope you know that except Kaaba the Saudis have destroyed everything which belonged to Muhammad. Muhammad and Khadijas house is turned to a toilet where all muslims of the world piss 24×7 and its pisslam now. Muhammad grave is being flattened and now the mosque where he used to pray is being demolished by the Sauds.

      So thats the end of Muhammad. Nothing remains of Muhammad. One cartoon of Denmark and so many processions by muslims. All things of Muhammad demolised by Saudis and not even one muslim have the balls with their cut penis to go against the Saudis? Do you think you have the balls to challenge the WAHABIS?

      Ha ha ha no one can challenge Saudi. Read and be happy. See the destruction of photos with your own eyes.

      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudis-risk-new-muslim-division-with-proposal-to-move-mohameds-tomb-9705120.html
      http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/medina-saudis-take-a-bulldozer-to-islams-history-8228795.html
      http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/saudi_destruction_of_muslim_historical_sites1
      http://time.com/3584585/saudi-arabia-bulldozes-over-its-heritage/

      Saudi organizations desecrate holy Quran. The quran is lying in gutter in Saudi Arabia. Do you have the balls to go and do Jihad with Saudis? No.
      http://www.presstv.com/detail/2013/12/16/340356/saudi-organizations-desecrate-holy-quran/

      The non Islamic Jihad is working in parallel and you dont even know about it. But you will surely know. Just wait and watch and you will enjoy it as and when you will discover it.

      Best of Luck non Arabic muslim Kafir!!!! We Wahabis are coming to you soon. And we will do what you are doing now except that we will kill you all even if you utter name of Muhammad in front of us.

      Long live Wahabism. Long live Saudi Arabia.

      By the way before I close please read the below from Quran:

      Quran verse 8:74: And those who believed, and emigrated and strove hard in the Cause of Allah (Al-Jihad), as well as those who gave (them) asylum and aid; – these are the believers in truth, for them is forgiveness and Rizqun Karim (a generous provision i.e. Paradise).

      So all the nations where muslims are living today are asylum seekers and all those nations (US UK Canada etc…) have given asylum to all muslims. So all these nations are believers in truth and for them is forgiveness and Rizqun Karim (a generous provision i.e. Paradise). Whereas the Darul Islamic nations like Saudi Arabia and rest of Arabia have denied the asylum to their brothers and sisters of Umma so they will burn in the fiery torment.

      Ha ha you idiots dont even understand your Quran. We will snatch you soon via Wahabism. Wait and watch

  19. anonymous democrat atheist thinker
    |

    Very interesting text by Mr. Warren. I agree with everything, and thank you for speaking out. Only one small remark that make things even worse than what you, Mr. Warren explain, I think. It’s about “out of the Muslims who want Sharia, 52% of them say that it should only cover Muslims. But, 42% think that the Kafir should be ruled by Islam as well”. Actually, it is impossible to have a Sharia that covers only muslims, because Sharia law and democratic law are incompatible. Let’s suppose there’s a democratic Western country where Muslims would be allowed to act according to Sharia law, only for muslims. What will they do with homosexual muslims? Stone them to death? They don’t have the right to, as citizens of the democratic country they live in. Even worse: what will they do with apostats? Kill them? They doubly don’t have the right, first off because in a democratic country no-one can take the law in their hands, it’s up to the democratic justice to handle all conflict. Secondly, the persons in questions would be, technically speaking, non-muslims and be outside of Sharia. Ect etc. It’s just impossible. So, actually, 100% of the muslims who want Sharia law to become real want the end of democratic justice because the two are incompatible and they prefer Sharia. Islam just is totally incompatible with democracy, freedom of expression etc, and any honest muslim will say so and even be proud of it because being a muslim means just that: thinking that Islam and Sharia law are superior, “better”, than democracy and democratic justice.

  20. Veritas Now
    |

    Come on guys! John Islam is making a point. He is not a Muslim. I think he’s rather inartfully using hyperbole to make a point that liberals, multiculturalism, and political correctness are delaying a permanent solution to dealing with the spread of Islam and establishment of a global caliphate. No devout Muslim would ever say “ISIS is evil”. By definition they are practicing pure Islam and showing us what that looks like – further evidence of the absolute incompatibility of Islam with any Western culture or democracy. And the bit about changing countries names by adding on “STAN”, that’s just pure bigotry. The term ‘stan” is an ancient Persian farsi word, not Arabic. No supporter of the Saudis would ever make such a stupid statement. The Saudis and the Iranians are bitter enemies.
    Finally, this is to you John Islam, “Stop it! You’re not adding anything substantive to the dialogue.”

  21. cellogant
    |

    I heard Bill Warner on Fox New radio this morning, and I felt compelled to address some ideas that I immediately noticed.

    With all respect first of all it really saddens me to see someone who holds a phD in mathematics seek to quantify and measure “an eye for an eye” like behaviors throughout human history. This is a useless application of inference or measure because firstly it has inherently assumed that we can accurately measure human conflicts through history.

    Secondly even it were the case that history was an at least valid enough record from which to draw some inference on these conflicts throughout history- what would be the outcomes of the conclusions?

    Assume that Dr. Warner is correct and that it is the case that Muslims and Islam are worse in terms of inflicting violence and chaos through out the world, what is the context of this history? Isn’t that missing in that measure?

    If it weren’t case, and Dr w is wrong then his intentions have been wasted.

    I would like to suggest that there is a simple solution- No personal human or cultural conflicts through history or today can or have ever been truly solved in the dimension on which it was started. So I would suggest that we look at the bigger picture and not get mired down in too many countless finer points.
    At some point if lasting peace is to happen, cultures have to progress beyond meaningless violence, and the best way that we can set the stage for that is for people to express common understanding and compassion. Not needless expressions of perfectionism and splitting hairs for no gain. So yes I think his writings and study is a classic example of a perfectionist paradox.

    So I am suggesting that to measure wrongs between one group or another to come to the conclusion that one group of people is objectively worse than another is essentially meaningless and a useless outcome or conclusion. The bias in that endeavor is too inherently contained in the assumptions of the process, and the outcomes lead to contention and bolster extremist and violent tending views.

    And beyond that I have to say that someone with a degree in mathematics should understand the circular nature of systems of measure, and the flawed nature of logic itself. Logic and measure is certainly better than blind conjecture, but at some point we have to see when it will fail before it even starts. Base assumptions, axioms are VERY important and anyone with a degree in math knows that.

    I have often been idealistic in thinking that understanding leads to compassion and compassion leads to understanding, but perhaps it is actually the case that compassion should guide understanding, and true understanding would lead to compassion. This might sound a bit idealistic as well, but consider the outcomes of your intentions and where they lead the people who listen to you who likely want to think that Islamaphobia like any other fear in the world should be bolstered by the use of numbers and measure.

    All cases or outcomes of your goals on Islam lead to contention and disorder and social strife. Therefore the only solution to your best intentions on this matter is to consider that all peoples and cultures throughout history have at some point in some varying degrees been victims and criminals, heroes and villains. Again please consider the bigger picture, consider the context and history of the Islamic world. Consider the Islamic age of enlightenment and why it ended.
    Consider other exceedingly more militant religions that have not guided people to violence, but instead to discipline and understanding. What is commonly called Bushido comes to mind.

    In the end it all boils down to our capacity or choice- do we choose to form religious like views or views not based in evidence or views that cannot escape the duality of conflict? Do we choose to instill in our base assumptions the idea that quantifying wrongs between cultures will somehow solve the conflict? Why would we do so? And how can we escape the inevitable cycle this creates?

    You guys always talk about Islamic apologists, bleeding heart liberals etc, I would suggest rather these people are extending an olive branch on the ideal of forgiveness in seeking a better future for everybody, which would lead to common prosperity economically and culturally, and that the better outcomes come for the group that has looked out for what is best for the group(s) and the individual(s), while the individuals also look out for what is best for the group(s). :)

  22. […] For more Information click on this Hyper link […]

Leave a Reply