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September

Islam and Democracy

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Islam and Democracy

It is election season in America and time to look at one the of the dhimmis' favorite myths-the democratization of Islam. Great blood and treasure have been spent in Iraq to bring democracy to Islam.

But it makes no difference how much blood and treasure are spent; Islam is no more compatible with democracy than pigs are with flight. Islam has an entire doctrine of politics and government that was laid out by Mohammed. And just like pigs were not made for flight, Islamic political doctrine was not made for democracy.

The reason for this is the perfect example of Mohammed. Mohammed achieved success only when he became a politician and warrior. We may have politicians who invoke religion as part of their political persona, but we do not have any politicians who actually speak for god. Mohammed spoke for god. All Muslims did what they were told. Mohammed did not operate any kind of primal democracy; Mohammed and Allah ruled absolutely down to the smallest detail.

It is at this stage of the argument that Muslims like to invoke the idea of Mohammed's consulting with his Companions as a model for democracy. At the battle of Badr, one of the men asked Mohammed if his battle orders were from Allah? Mohammed said that it was his own opinion, not Allah's. The man pointed out that if the troops were placed in front of the well, it would be to Islam's advantage and Mohammed followed his advice.

The argument is that Mohammed listened to the voters. Hence, Islam is democratic. But when you read the entire Sira (the biography of Mohammed) and the Hadith, such "votes" by the Companions are extremely rare.

Here is an example of how non-democratic Islam is.

Abu Muslim Book 020, Number 4573:
[…] Shouldn't we overthrow them [the worst of rulers] with the help of the sword? Mohammed said, "No, as long as they establish prayer among you. If you then find anything detestable in them you should hate their administration, but do not withdraw yourselves from their obedience."

In short, as long as a leader is a Muslim, obey him, even if he is a tyrant. Does that sound like a democratic view? What if the tyrant is Sadam Hussein? Obey him.

But this is not the real reason that Islam cannot ever have democracy. The real reason is found in the word-kafir, a political word. The Muslim is superior to the kafir in politics and culture and the kafir must submit to the will of Islam in public affairs. Democracy is based upon the idea of the Golden Rule. The Golden Rule leads to equality in law and politics. But a Muslim and a kafir are not equal in political Islam. Votes are equal. We have a contradiction and democracy submits to Islam and tyranny.

There is a third reason why Islam is not capable of being democratic. Democracies are the source of the idea of human rights. Islam does not grant human rights to kafirs.

Christians are 3% of the population in Iraq and are 30% of those fleeing Iraq. Why? Persecution by political Islam. About 1300 years ago Iraq was Christian. Soon it will be 0% Christian. The tragedy is that this is of no importance in the media or houses of worship.

But we digress. The point is that Islam only gives full rights to Muslims. Kafirs, Christian and otherwise are second-class citizens, basically semi-slaves. This inequality is built into the doctrine of Islam and is fully supported by the example. If Mohammed wanted democracy he would have practiced democracy as a sacred example. But his sacred example was supreme, unquestioned ruler.

Islam is perfect, universal, complete and eternal. It does not have a reform option. Democracy is a kafir form of politics and is anti-Islamic.


Bill Warner

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"It's true. One cannot simultaneously be a Muslim and believe in democracy. Shoot, we Americans were only kidding the first 200 years here after 1776. Islam is an inherently supremacist doctrine. Kafirs are to submit to Muslims and women are to submit to men. Until Muslims can understand that all people are people - and that if anything Muslims are less than human, in that they lack souls, beng necessarily malignantly narcissistic, and have largely inbred themselves to within 3 generations of living in zoos - they can never even fathom democracy. And for them to understand and subscribe the notions of equality and humanity would mean that they are not Muslims.

I can't stand Zuhdi Jasser. I read Brigitte Gabriel praising him in Frontpage the other day and nearly fell off my couch. His whole stance is that Islam and democracy are indeed compatible. He has contrived a reading of the Koran (forget the Hadith and the Sira - he won't touch those on the record) by which Islam was never meant to be a political doctrine. Take away the political aspects and all you're left with is a cult based on hate and nothing else, like Nazism with no grand plans or dreams of empire. He also seems to not understand that Islam has to be political and destructive or it cannot survive. Islam has to parasitize other cultures, and when it does not have other cultures to parasitize it cannibalizes. Furthermore, people have to be forced into Islam because women require either physical duress or a ridiculous amount of brainwashing to buy into it, and I still don't believe that a single one actually does. Why would a woman choose a Muslim man when she could treated like a human being, exist independently of Sharia sex slavery, live a civilized life, and actually experience love, something of which Muslims are necessarily incapable, as reading the Koran and believing a word of it necessitates malignant narcissism? Plus it's what's between the lines in his writings that puts me off. He never mentions abandoning his supremacist mindset. He never mentions that he regards women and kafirs as his equals. He never mentions that he thinks that apostates and homosexuals shouldn't be killed. All he repudiates is the Sharia criminal code, which even most Islamic paradies refuse to subscribe to, like Egypt and Pakistan (for now). He's either ridiculously deluded, or he has no concept of democracy just like he has no understanding of Islamic history and much of its doctrine, or more likely, he is furthering a disinformation campaign of the most ingenius sort, on the right side.

Islam and democracy are incompatible. Islam and human rights are incompatible. Islam and humanity are incompatible. Islam and freedom are incompatible. Islam and God are incompatible."

jdamn — September 8, 2008 @ 8:56 PM

"Etched forever in my mind is the sight of signs carried by marchers in the London cartoon protests: "Liberalism go to hell", "Freedom of expression go to hell." It was then I began taking the Islamist agenda seriously. Fanatics spout before they attack. Islam from the outset declared war against human rights and human freedom. Bill Warner is right again: Islam is incompatible with democracy. Islam is about slavery and slavery is imposed by jihad. In paradise, Moslems are to receive not only 72 virgins (which all Westerners have heard of), but a minimum of 70,000 slaves each. The best of the Islamic warriors will receive many more than that, we must understand. The heart of the Koran and of Hadiths is jihad. Political Islam is, for that reason, most like fascism, where one ruler has absolute power, as the "successor" (caliph) to Mohammed.

According to Pure Islam, the Sunna and Sharia derived from it are perfect, requiring no voting or consultation of public opinion. They must be imposed on the world, if necessary, against their will. That is real Islam."

Democracyistheanswer — September 16, 2008 @ 9:42 AM

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