There is an enormous irony contained in the Boston Marathon bombing. When the jihadi Tsarnaev brothers car jacked a Mercedes, it had a Coexist bumper sticker.
The Coexist bumper sticker is the religious symbol of the multicultural crowd — you know — all religions are the same. Well, the leading symbol of those who want to Coexist is the star and crescent Islam. And exactly how well has Islam coexisted with all of the others? What kind of neighbor has Islam been over history?
Start with Mohammed. We know an enormous amount about Mohammed as a neighbor to Kafirs (non-Muslims), pagans, Jews and Christians.
When Mohammed was in Mecca before he became a Muslim, he was a good neighbor who was prosperous and helped to settle disputes. But, that all changed when he became the prophet of Allah. Once he became a public preacher of Islam, he became an irritant to his neighbors. You see, not only did Mohammed know what was right, he demanded that everybody do everything his way, Allah’s way. He was a neighbor who was always right and you were always wrong. Not only were you wrong, but your parents and grandparents were wrong. Mohammed no longer settled arguments; he created arguments. After 13 years of this, the Meccans told Mohammed to leave Mecca.
So he went to the town of Medina, which was half Jewish. And what kind of neighbor was Mohammed to the Jews? Put briefly, two years later, Medina was Judenrein (cleansed of Jews). When he arrived, there were three tribes of Jews. In rapid order, the first tribe was driven out of town, bereft of their goods. Then the second tribe of Jews was exiled. They were lucky. The last of the Jewish tribes suffered the most. The women were enslaved and sold wholesale for money to purchase horses and arms for jihad. For the rest of his life, Mohammed used slavery to help finance his jihad. The children were kidnapped and adopted into Muslim families to be raised as Muslims. Then the 800 male Jews were all beheaded.
But wait. Mohammed was not through coexisting with the Jews. Later he left Medina and went to Khaybar and attacked them. Mohammed crushed them, took their wealth and put them to work under the Sharia to work as dhimmis and give him half of what they earned. That was how Mohammed coexisted with the Jews.
But Mohammed was not through with coexisting with the Arabians. He attacked the Meccan caravans. His jihadists killed, kidnapped, stole, assassinated and fought the pagan Arabs at every turn. Mohammed’s coexistence policy with the Arabs was jihad. This went on until every Arab became a Muslim.
After Mohammed has made every soul in Arabia convert to Islam, he turned his coexistence policy to the Christians north of Arabia in Syria. He attacked the Christians the losers became dhimmis just like the Jews.
Dhimmis are the way that the Sharia allows Kafirs to coexist within a Muslim society. The dhimmi is a third class non-citizen who pays special taxes and has no real civil rights. A dhimmi could not testify against a Muslim in court, for instance.
Look at how Islam coexisted with Africa. A coexistence clue is that Arabic has one word, “abd”, that means both black slave and African. Context must supply which meaning is used. Islam ran the slave trade on the West coast, East coast and Mediterranean coasts of Africa. Islam sold every slave that was brought to the Americas. Conservative estimates are that 120 million Africans were killed in the jihad that produced all of the slaves in Africa.
How did Islam coexist with the Buddhists in what is now Afghanistan? Jihad annihilated every single Buddhist and their libraries and monasteries.
There is a massive data base of the coexistence between Islam and the rest of the world at thereligionofpeace.com. It catalogs more than 20,000 jihad attacks around the world since 9/11 2001. Here is a chart of the data of the top 4 nations as victims of jihad:
Put another way, this is how Islam coexists today with Jews, Buddhists, Christians and Hindus. It practices jihad against all non-Muslims, Kafirs.
The idea of coexist has a social ring to it, we’re all one big happy family. But how do we talk about all religions and not get into which one is right or best? Well, there is an easy way to do it. If you are not a member of a religion, the only thing you care about is how you are treated by those who belong to that religion. In short, you only care about the ethics and character of the adherent.
All of the world’s religions have an ethical code that is rooted in the Golden Rule. Islam does not have a Golden Rule. Mohammed’s life is the perfect example of how not to be a good neighbor. How do you coexist with a neighbor who has the ethical choice of jihad of murder and deceit?
What do religious leaders in American think about coexisting with Islam? They love it. Coexist is the mental mush that fills the heads of the useful idiots that go to the Family of Abraham religious dialogues. The ministers and rabbis who go to these dialogs know as much about Islam as what is found on the Coexist bumper sticker. Really, their ignorance is astounding. They are there to coexist and the imam is there to dominate. Dhimmi Christians and Jews want to tie, the Muslim wants to win.
But the mental mush of coexistence is not just in the heads of the dhimmi religious leaders, it also fills the heads of law enforcement and military. Under Bush and Obama, all of those who actually know something about Islam inside the military and law enforcement have been eliminated. FBI and military training files have been purged to satisfy the Muslim Brotherhood. So our protectors are forbidden to study the war doctrine of political Islam. They are prevented from naming the enemy and studying them.
There is only one way to coexist with Islam over time. Islam must submit to Kafir civilization and we must never submit to Islam, not even in the smallest detail. This means we must all know the smallest details of Islam and that begins with the knowledge of Mohammed and his wars against all Kafirs.
First published in American Thinker.
Bill Warner, Director, Center for the Study of Political Islam
Copyright © 2013 CBSX, LLC, politicalislam.com
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Islam is an Abrahamic monotheistic religion teaching that there is only one God and that Muhammad is the messenger of God.
What is Islam?
Islam is a religion. If one wants to know the answer to the question “what is Islam?” in plain words we can define Islam as follows;
“The religion of Islam means the acceptance of and obedience to those teachings of God which He revealed to His Last Prophet, Muhammad
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Hi Dr. Bill Warner,
How to co-exist when the other party is promoting NEGATIVENESS through:
MAKING PROFITS BY
TAKING OTHER’S LANDS ,PROPERTIES & OTHER ASSETS FOR FREE,
WOMEN, CHILDREN to be kept/sold as SLAVES,CONCUBINES, PROSTITUTES, CHILDREN SOLDIERS for the muslims’ commercial gain and pleasure. and the non-muslims’ sufferings.
through JIHADS and ISLAMIC APARTHEID to the majority (Non-Muslims) of the world in the name of ALLAH.
This is INVASION & IMPERIALISM AND NOT CO-EXISTENCE IN HARMONY.
Please, please, get several people who know and understand English to read these messages and correct the spelling and grammatical errors before they are posted.
I AM NOT suggesting censorship, that is, changing the writers’ intentions. I am talking about conveying the writers’ thoughts accurately.
An accurate definition of “religion”, would be useful. Any “religion” which advocates and supports the killing of its opponents is not one. Those who think so are signing their own death warrant and deserve eternal damnation.
Hi Dr. Bill,
Can you explain why the Bible and the Quran are difference ?
Jesus taught ” LOVE COMPASSION , FORGIVENESS etc and he died for the people so that his blood washed the sins of people who believe in HIM as son of GOD
Mohammed taught HATE , DECEIT , SLAVERY, KILL AND BE KILLED FOR ALLAH, DISCRIMINATION, MISTREATMENT OF WOMEN & KAFIRS etc
Is the Christian God and Allah is the same?
Please correct us if we are wrong, we are told that:
Christian GOD to be the UNIVERSAL CREATOR and
ALLAH is the Pagan Moon God of the ARABS who command the followers to dominate the world by conquest , killings and force, then made the non-muslims as slaves, dhimmis, prostitutes etc. There is no love, compassion or forgiveness!
Please explain. Thanks
No matter what happens in the world,
our Lord and God Jesus Christ is creator and ruler.
Not islam or muhammad or allah.
Never stop praying.
Neil C. Reinhardt
1. ATHEISM IS NOT A RELIGION! IT IS A LACK OF BELIEF IN ONE OR MORE GODS!
2. THE IRAQ WAR WAS FULLY JUSTIFIED! AND ANYONE WHO DOES NOT KNOW IT WAS IS IGNORANT OF THE FACTS! (TOO LAZY TO LEARN THEM AND PROBABLY TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THEM IF THEY DID LEARN THEM.)
Neil C. Reinhardt
You do not post those who point out facts?
my, how “Christian” of you
Neil C. Reinhardt
Are you going to point out how, at one time, a Christian king killed those who would not convert? Or the reason the Serbs (Greek Orthodox) were killing the Catholic / Moslem Bosnian’s & Croatians was because in WWII, the Catholics were killing those who would not covert??
How about to be a Neo Nazi or a KKK Member, you must be a Christian?
Or how Eric Rober Rudolph, the guy who blew up gay bars, health clinics and the Olympics was a rabid Christian?
Are you going to mention how Hitler was born, raised a Catholic and like Stalin and Castro, was educated by the Jesuits? Or how Hitler was helped in to power and supported by the Catholics? And/or how Hitler was never excommunicated by the Catholic Church?
The facts are blaming all of those in a one religion for the actions of some who are in the same religion is illogical, irrational and very stupid!
Probably not as it seems you are just one more Programmed Religious Robot who is so clueless you do not realize the only reason you are a Christian and not a Moslem is simply because you were not raised by Moslems!
Thankfully, due to some TV shows, some Movies, 9-11 and the “Big One”, the Internet, in the last 20 years, Many, Many Millions of “Former Christians” have left their childish superstitious myths on the trash heap of history along with all those others whose time has come, and gone.
Neil C. Reinhardt
TheShockedGuy – do you really believe that if religion ceased to exist that man would not find some other reason for killing?
You keep talking about individuals. Islam is a prescriptive set of beliefs, ideas. Those ideas themselves are evil.
Oh, and sorry for all the typos!! Typing this from my phone!!
Before I go on with my answer, note that I respect your answer but don’t agree with it either as I feel you are omitting things from it!!
Yes, the 3 “leaders” you mentioned did commit huge atrocities but not in the name of religion and yes some did try to eradicate religion but for politcal gain or power. And yes a lot of these wars are led by atheists but a lot of these wars were not started in the name of Aethism!! Again, I’m not defending atheism or a specific religion. I’m just fed with man using religion as a mean to justify war!!
Yes, many wars are started for other reason other than religion but a huge amount of them have started, not just over that last 5 decades but over the last 5 centuries, or more in the name of Islam, Christianity, etc….
Also in regards to the largest bloodshed in history, why are you omitting Hitler?? Though controversial, and one could agree/disagree, he was a technically a “Catholic/Christian”. What about bush and his ridiculous decision to invade Iraq??? So many Americans have died for what?? WMD that were never found?? But how many Iraqis died and yes their are Muslims and most of them were probably only too happy to go on with their daily business, but last time I checked it was estimated to be over 1m?? Insane!! The same applies to many wars!! Genocide in Rwanda! Over what?
Look, I agree with a lot of comments left in here and I disagree with the kind of extreme right comments left as well. They are just as scary as Muslim extremists!! Not every Christian, Jew, Hindu, etc… And Muslim is bad nor are they all good!! It’s in human nature to fight and kill and though we have become more controlled over the years, well at least in some part of the world, there are still far too many wars, and yes, a huge amount of them in the name of Islam, which is worrying, we should still be careful of articles like this one! While they may be accurate to some level, I don’t believe in stereotyping one religion. I’ve got Christian, Jewish and Muslim friends and funny that we can all play sport together or go drinks or meals and work and get on with our daily lives without having to hate one another. I’m sure that my view would liekly be very different if I lost someone over an idea or religious belief but if we all this this, then everyone should still hate Germans, China should invade Japan, Ireland should still try to the the shit of England, and the list goes on!! People will hopefully overtime learn to be more tolerant and less cruel to one another but that’s wishful thinking once again!!
I’ve already spent far too much time here and I’d love to continue this discussion but I can’t.
All the best to you and whoever else is reading this post, whatever your religious belief may be!! And remember hate is not the answer!!! Take care!
SOLVING THE MUSLIM PROBLEM
The violent 1400 – year history of Islam clearly indicates that Muslims are not in America to assimilate into our country; rather, they are here to ultimately dominate and subjugate Americans under the totalitarian yoke of Islam. Muslims seek, by way of civilization jihad, the overthrow of our American Constitution.
Once “real” patriotic leadership has been restored in Washington, and in concert with our Western friends and allies abroad, America must form a coalition of Western nations to prosecute a relentless, sustained, and unconditional war against the dark and evil forces of Islam worldwide on all fronts, in order to destroy and/or subdue this totalitarian ideology of Islam, by way of the following wartime defense initiatives:
– Mobilize America on a ‘wartime footing’ under legislation similar to the War Powers Act of 1941 and the Second War Powers Act, not unlike emergency laws that America used, in partnership with our allies, to successfully unconditionally defeat Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in World War II.
– Outlaw the ‘Medina’ components of both Islamic Sharia law and Islamic Jihad, that which comprises the 86% of political Islam.
– Prohibit the construction of new mosques or repairs or upgrades of any kind to existing mosques; forbid Muslims from praying openly in the public or in public buildings; and forbid all mosques from sounding the ‘adhan’ (call to prayer) on outdoor loudspeakers.
According to Vijay Kumar in his 2011 article, The Muslim Mosque: A State Within a State, “In every instance where Islam has conquered and “destroyed utterly” a nation or civilization, the key to the conquest was the establishment of mosques, which are political and military command and control centers for Islam, and which all point toward the seat of Islamic power: the Kaaba.” A mosque in the United States is a command and control center of a foreign political and military state that seeks the overthrow of our government, and an Imam in a mosque is a political and military representative of a foreign state that calls for the overthrow of the United States. The laws of the United States provide specific criminal penalties for sedition and treason. These laws are not only applicable to those advocating and calling for the overthrow of our Constitution and our government; they are applicable to anyone who gives “aid or comfort” to such declared enemies of the United States, or who “organizes or helps or attempts to organize any society, group, or assembly of persons” so engaged.”
– Stop all legal immigration of Muslims into America. Muslims immigrating to America are not here to assimilate, instead it has been demonstrated by their actions that they are here to dominate and wage civilization jihad against America at all levels. Muslims, in partnership with the Muslim Brotherhood, have stated their intentions to destroy our democracy, our Constitution, and our American way of life with the goal of replacing it with Sharia law. â€¨
– Refuse entry of any person, shown to be a Muslim, into the U.S., regardless of the reason (including for asylum and humanitarian reasons). Stop issuing U.S. visas (e.g. B1/B2 tourist visas, F1 student visas, H1B work visas, etc.) to Muslims wishing to travel to the U.S. and immediately revoke all existing non-expired U.S. visas that have been previously issued to Muslims. Deport those Muslims found to be in the U.S. on revoked visas.
– Revoke the U.S. citizenship of every Muslim currently holding this privileged status, regardless of whether they reside in the U.S. or abroad. Encourage all Muslims residing in the U.S. to self-deport. Muslims who refuse to self-deport will be forced into a formalized ‘dhimmi’ status while residing in America.
– Allow Muslim ‘dhimmis’ to practice only the non-violent 14% ‘religious’ components of Islamic theology as outlined in the ‘Mecca’ Koran, not the violent political components of the Medina Koran. Moving forward, only those portions of the non-violent and non-political ‘Mecca’ Koran will be protected under our First Amendment. All political and violent portions of the political ‘Medina’ Koran will be outlawed.
– Revoke the Legal Permanent Resident (LPR) status of all non-citizen Muslims who are currently legally residing within the United States who are holding “green cards.” Urge these Muslims to self-deport; however, those who refuse to self-deport and who wish to continue to reside in the U.S. will be issued a new Legal Permanent Dhimmi Card (LPD) commensurate with their new status. With the express understanding that the card may be revoked, at any time, if they fail to comply with all of our Western values and laws. They are deemed to have broken their contract of ‘protection’ and they are subject to immediate legal recourses. For example, those Muslims who commit crimes, especially violent crimes or crimes involving moral turpitude (CIMT), sedition and treason, will be tried, punished, and deported.
– Require all Muslim ‘dhimmis’ to pay an additional 50% percent of their earned income to local city governments in the form of an annual ‘jizya’ payment to ensure that they feel appropriately ‘humiliated’ and ‘subdued.’ All regular applicable state and federal taxes will continue to taken out of their earned wages at the standard rates.
– Allow Muslim ‘zakat” payments only so long as the monies go only to non-violent and non-political charities that support BOTH Muslim and non-Muslim beneficiaries. ‘Zakat’ payments will be monitored and audited by federal authorities to ensure compliance.
– Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the right to vote in any city, state, or federal elections.
– Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the opportunity to run for and/or hold any public or political office of any kind. Muslims would not be allowed to serve in our military or any federal, state, or local government positions of any kind, especially in a position of trust that has access to sensitive or classified information – for example the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), or any others. Those Muslims currently serving in positions within any local, state, or federal organizations, whether public or private, would have their employment terminated immediately for reasons of national security.
– Deny Muslim ‘dhimmis’ the right to own land or real estate property anywhere in America.
– Should a Muslim tire of being subjugated under their voluntary ‘dhimmi’ status, they will be afforded opportunities to self-deport or become an apostate from Islam. Apostates would be allowed to re-apply for a pathway to U.S. citizenship, would no longer be required to pay the ‘jizya,’ would be allowed to vote, would be allowed to own property, and enjoy all of the other benefits of being a non-Muslim law-abiding American citizen willing to assimilate into our American way of life based on our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.
– Begin a massive re-education program in America to ensure that all Americans understand the true nature of Islam and the existential threat it poses to America. Rewrite and republish all educational textbooks in America, from K-1 up though our finest universities) to once and for all tell the unvarnished truth about Islam, not the whitewashed and sugarcoated propagandized Islam approved versions that currently exist today. Purge all Muslim teachers, educators, department chairs, and professors from our education system, especially those who have been appointed, approved, and funded by Saudi Arabia. Make it illegal to accept any monies into our education system from any Islamic sources of any kind, e.g. grants, scholarships, and donations from Saudi Arabia. Promote the excellent body of scholarship that has been written and disseminated by American patriots such as Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, William Warner, Steven Emerson, Hellesponte & Kerodin, and dozens of others who have been waging a war for years on America’s front lines against Islam and its war against the West. These unsung patriots are the true heroes and ‘Paul Revere’s” of our time for alerting Americans to the approaching threat of Islam!
– Hold all apologist and quisling politicians in Washington accountable for their actions with respect to treason and sedition, e.g. those who, for their own personal gain, accept Islamic monies (financial influence operations), and those who aid and abet the enemies of America by way of their political position.
– Reinstate all references to Islam back into the FBI Counterterrorism Lexicon, e.g. “Islam,” “Muslim,” “Jihad,” “enemy,” “terror,” etc. Ensure that the FBI has full and sweeping powers and authority to monitor (surveillance, wiretapping, etc.) all mosque activities, all written materials available in mosques, to monitor all financial transactions, and as a matter of policy the FBI should investigate all Imams and any and/or all Muslims attending any mosque to look for indications of renewed sedition and treason against the U.S. and our Constitution.
– Investigate, shutdown, and confiscate the assets of all known Muslim Brotherhood front groups and their members such as the Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR), the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), the Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA), Muslim Students Association (MSA), the North American Imams Federation (NAIF), the North American Islamic Trust (NAIT) and hundreds of others that are currently operating in the U.S. Investigate all members for treason and sedition.
-Shutdown all Islamic Internet propaganda sites such as http://www.loonwatch.com, http://www.whyislam.org, http://www.cair.com, and many others within the jurisdiction of U.S. law, and confiscate all assets, and investigate all employees for sedition and treason. Prosecute a cyber warfare campaign against all foreign-based Islamic propaganda websites.
– Close down, by force if necessary, all known Islamic training camps and compounds where Muslim Americans train to wage jihad against America. Have the FBI investigate, arrest, and charge with sedition all members associated with these compounds. These camps, such as those run by The Muslims of America (MOA), are numerous and have been part of a secret decades-long program by MOA to train a jihadi army within the United States.
– Begin a concerted program to make America energy independent using our own natural resources as well as those of our Western friends and allies abroad such as Canada. While on a wartime footing, tap our Strategic Petroleum Reserves to supplement our own natural resources. Stop all purchases of oil from any Middle Eastern Islamic country. This will stop the billions of petro-dollars originating from the U.S. from flowing into Middle Eastern countries, especially countries like Saudi Arabia and Iran who are using these petro-dollars to finance their promotion of Islam and terrorism around the world. Indiscriminately take Islamic oil by force as part of the West’s war against Islam and divide it up equally among all Western coalition nations.
– Bring manufacturing industries back to America so that we will have the national infrastructure to be self-sufficient and not have to rely on other countries to provide us wartime materials and assets.
– Put America back on track to pay down our national debt and to no longer be beholden to foreign countries that own us outright, e.g. China.
– Stop all foreign aid to any Islamic country such as Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Jordan, Turkey, and all others. In conjunction with our Western friends and allies abroad, place severe and crippling economic sanctions and embargos on all Islamic countries worldwide.
– Protect and support Israel, our longtime friend and ally, from Islamic jihad and stop the Islamic Republic of Iran from getting nuclear weapons, by force if necessary. Defeat Pakistan and take control of their nuclear weapons arsenal.
– Withdraw U.S. membership and funding within United Nations (UN) as it has become nothing more than a mouthpiece and forum against the West primarily by the 56-member Organization of Islamic Criminals (OIC) and the Palestinian Authority to wage jihad against the West. Kick the UN headquarters out of the U.S. to some god-forsaken Third World failed Islamic state such as Somalia or Sudan.
Although the hour is late, I would encourage all Western countries (USA, UK, France, Spain, Canada, Australia, Belgium, Germany, Switzerland, Austria, Norway, Netherlands, Sweden, and all others) to join America and enact similar initiatives in their respective countries.” This would mean a unified allied coalition of all participating Western nations aligned across the world to wage total unconditional sustained war against Islam on all fronts until it has been totally subdued and/or destroyed beyond all recognition.
America, as the only remaining world superpower, must take the lead and follow in the footsteps of our “Greatest Generation” when, in the 1940s, we mobilized our nation, and aided by our allies, defeated the combined totalitarian forces of Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. Also, we must not forget our victory in The Cold War (1945-1991) over the Eastern Bloc, dominated by the Soviet Union with the Warsaw Pact.
Now is the time, before it is too late, to somehow summon the political will of all patriotic American people”to get our political house back in order and to defeat the dark forces currently aligned against our great nation.
“You’re being very narrow minded if you are not understanding my “suggestion”!!!!. C’mon now!!”
I guess I’m not understanding your “suggestion”.
“I accept all religions but are they or not at the cause of most wars and atrocities that have been going on for centuries/millenniums.
I know it will never happen and it would impeach on everyone’s freedom, but surely you have to admit that religion, irrelevant of which one you belong to has been used to justify man’s cruel nature!! Christians, Jews, etc… have all killed in the name of religions and now Muslims are it more prominently than ever!!”
I disagree. Again, the largest bloodshed in human history occurred under the command of three atheist rulers in the 20th century – Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, and Mao. Those three atheists killed more people in a 50-year period than in all the prior “religious” wars combined. So I think your claim is a ways off the mark. Now, were their actions the result of their worldview – atheism? One could certainly argue “yes” to that question.
As for the Spanish Inquisition, I’ve seen numbers of persons killed at sub-10,000. Were they right to do so? No. But on the scale of things, again, I think you should do some more homework.
And I’ve not called for anyone’s death, so I’m not sure how I could be labeled an “executioner”. All I’m saying is that the religions, including atheism, should be examined critically as IDEAS. Once you do that, Islam fails.
And perhaps you should explain your “ban all religions” idea. Because, as I see it, we’re really talking about worldviews here, and atheism is also one of them.
To @Enough, While I agree on that one, they’re a little more to it than that.
It is still a minority and I don’t know if it will stay like this but as I said above, should we hate all Germans and their generation because of what they did?? And in regards to what you’re saying, c’mon… “The war of civilization against savages is inevitable”… You sound just as bad as they do. The only difference is that they are calling you infidels rather than savages!!
Look, I know patience is wearing thin with the rest of the world and we (the western world) can’t keep being afraid to tackle the issue but surely you are not suggesting that we should have a third world war and make sure every Muslim on the planet should be exterminated???
@Justin, I’m not contracting myself!!
You’re being very narrow minded if you are not understanding my “suggestion”!!!!. C’mon now!!
I accept all religions but are they or not at the cause of most wars and atrocities that have been going on for centuries/millenniums.
I know it will never happen and it would impeach on everyone’s freedom, but surely you have to admit that religion, irrelevant of which one you belong to has been used to justify man’s cruel nature!! Christians, Jews, etc… have all killed in the name of religions and now Muslims are it more prominently than ever!!
As for the Crusade, you are right! I did use the wrong terminology to bring up!! I was referring to the Spanish inquisition and the likes… I thought by the tone in your response that you were a smart & educated guy and you would have managed to put 2 and 2 together and figure out what I was referring to!!! Next, you’ll be telling me that people did not get tortured and killed in order to restore Christianity!!!!
As for communism, I completely disagree with its belief and practise!! But would I have imprisoned or killed people to express my dismay or my fear of it…. Not a chance!!
As for your last comment “The New Atheism is probably as intolerant as Islam”… Again, I cannot believe you just said that… It is frightening to think that there are people like you in a our world. As I said above, this is extremely right wing radical way of thinking… What then, after the Muslims… The Atheisms??? You sound just as “intolerable” extremist Muslims that hate our way of life…. You’ll just be replacing them once they are gone!! Truly frightening!! I still can’t believe you just said that!
And here I am, while being a potential atheist, as I haven’t fully made up my mind, teaching my kids to be kind, honest, tolerable, accept others for their beliefs, religion, race, etc… and then there are people like you! You appear to be as judgemental as extremist Muslims!!
And so you know, my wife is catholic and my kids are all being brought up as catholic because yes, as I felt it was not my place to enforce my current beliefs onto them. They are being brought up as Catholics and they will be allow to make up their mind as they matured … And here you are telling me I’m “intolerant” because I might be a “New Atheism”… Wow… I’m not even going to look into what this may be… All I know if people like you scare me…Here you are accusing of being intolerant and here you are playing judge, jury and probably executioner if you could!! Frightening!!
Your post is incoherent. You state that you want tolerance then say all religion should be banned. That makes little sense.
While you’re going back to do your homework, you really should take a closer look at the Crusades and what caused them. With Islam knocking on the door of Western Europe at the time, violently I might add, the Crusades were largely a defensive response to Muslim aggression which had been going on for centuries. The current pop culture notion of the Crusades is largely simplistic and in error. But in your unbiased studies, I’m sure you will uncover this for yourself.
As for the Communist witch hunts, well, McCarthy was largely correct.
Communism, like Islam, is a worldview, a system of belief, an idea. And ideas absolutely should be judged and critiqued. And, like Communism,, Islam is a horrible idea, an evil worldview. Both are directly opposed to a free society, which you seem to value.
As for proving God’s existence, your notion of proof is also naive, and if you insist upon demanding proof, then provide proof yourself that atheism is correct. The New Atheism is probably as intolerant as Islam, and I see lots of hints of the New Atheism in your response.
To you, Theshockedguy, I want to say 1 thing. The doors to Muslims were opened by Europe, USA, Australia and many other countries. They had a chance to prove themselves as a decent culture. Muslims miserably failed. They will never ever coexist with non muslims for as long as their holy book of evil exists. The war of civilization against savages is inevitable.
I’m really shocked by some of the things I’ve just read… More by the comments than the article itself!!!
While I thought the article was ok, and I feel like agreeing with a good few points, I still will do my own research and find out whether or not they are fact or not and not guzzle them down naively like some of you seem to be doing.
I’ve just read people giving out to @ Dahiru Abubakar, and while they are entitled to their opinions, so is he.
One thing I do disagree with is that you cannot give out about someone make threats i.e. @ Dahiru Abubakar, and a few lines down, you have @Jeanne waiting for its own holy war when America will be fed up with them, or you have @Hellbat44 and you want to kick them all out of the country… This is truly ironic!!
I do feel, no one should have the right to enforce their believe on others, whether Christian, Jewish, Hindu or Muslim.
The way @Hellbat44 is speaking is truly outrages… I’m thinking, right wing to its fullest! Let me ask you something…
Should we have got rid of all the Christians 300/400 years ago or so after their “Crusades”, or more recently, while not suicide bombers or the likes, should we get rid of them for building an army of paedophiles that hid under the cloth or used God as a mean to enrich themselves, and the list goes on???
When we are done with the Muslims, should we then take on the Christians and when we are done with them too, should we start going after all Germans, Japanese and what the hell, may as well get rid of all the blacks and Mexican while we’re at it… Oh and don’t forget communists and socialists as well… and while we’re on a rampage, let’s get rid of homeless people, single mothers, the Irish and Italians as they should never really have stepped in America to begin with!!!! Are you listening to yourself!!!
See a pattern here @Hellbat44??? You want America, which I would personally think of as one of the greatest nation in the world, to turn into a Neo-Nazzi Germany…
Is this really what you want America to turn into???
Don’t get me wrong, I strongly disagree with Muslim believes and I feel governments around the world should be more “ballsy” and not bow down to every Islamic demands or do the politically correct thing not to offend anybody. This will definitely have a negative effect on society as a whole.
I was brought up Christian but lost my faith over the years as I felt strongly opposed to the hypocrisy of the church and it’s members, but I was brought up to respect and accept others, so today still I accept Christians, Jews, and yes Muslims as well and whatever other religions it may be but it does not mean I have to agree or bow to whatever believe is bestowed upon me.
I do feel they are 400 years behind, the same way Christianity was back them.. Burn to the stake, tortured, drowned, you name it, Christians did it… All in the name of God… Do you see another pattern here?? Very similar, but we’ve moved on, they haven’t… While I don’t want to wait 400 years (nor can I unfortunately, let’s face it!) may be Islam will be as tolerable as Christian and Jewish faiths are today? I don’t know.
If Muslims want to be accepted by our “western” society, there is no doubt that changes will be expected of them. They will need to integrate more in regards to acceptance, freedom of speech, liberation of women, and even something right down and silly such as clothing will help them and they will have to accept that we have our celebrations, whether Christians, Jewish or other, and you will have to accept their celebrations as well but when it comes down to culture, they will have to accept our way of live. It is critical for them to be more tolerable and accept our society as being an acceptable standard if they do want to live among us.
If they cannot do this, yes, we do have a problem that will escalate but it does not mean every Muslim is bad! For heaven sake, don’t be so naÃ¯ve!!
I personally couldn’t care less what religion you decide to follow, however I do strongly disagree with a lot of Muslim believes in regards to freedom of speech, women’s rights, their primitive punishments (though dropping a bomb is no better than beheading!! Just easier!) and so on but this is a cultural issue rather than a religious one, well, to me it’s cultural, and to Muslims, it’s more religious and this will always be a problem for me until these issues are resolved.
One last thing I do feel that needs to be addressed and while a little bit off topic, I did mention I got fed up with the hypocrisy of the church, well America does have a lot to answer for.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the US and I was lucky enough to live there for a few years as a teenager and love every minute of it and I have very found memory of it, but … and yes there is a but… America has to stop playing games when people’s lives are at stake and they do it far too often without thinking of the consequences!!
Look at your history… Here we are giving out about Muslims but let’s face it, you’ve got huge unresolved problems which do need to be address… I was talking about the Christian’s crusades that happened 400 years ago, but come back a little bit closer to our time.. Less than 50/60 years ago, you thought it was acceptable to go on a which hunt after communists, African American did not have a say, you dropped a couple of nukes in the process and you’ve been selling arms to “terrorist countries” for years on end.
Your politicians can not keep playing 2 sides every time and not expect to pay a price at some stage… You cannot sell weapons to one country, then turn on them and sell more weapons to their enemies, then turn on them too and hope their will turn on each other!!!
US, Russian, China, etc… need to stop selling weapons to all these countries.. but we all know this is never going to happen… Why.. Well, the answer hasn’t changed in hundreds of years and it’s not about to change any time soon… GREED A.K.A MONEY!
I did not bring Israel in the equation or will I as this will never be ending.
To recap, I don’t believe the way Muslims are trying to enforce their believes on us when they are the one who want to live in our society, the same way I disagree the way Christians tried to do it with the rest of the world 400 years ago. This is plain wrong, there is no question about this, but stereo-typing every Muslims as terrorist is just as wrong!!
My solution, ban religions world wide… Far too many people have been killed in the name of “God”/”Allah”/etc…
And the irony of all this… @Hellbat44.. You said, not one person got back to you for a week later about your “reason as to why this should not happen”…
Well answer me this… I dare you to prove “God”, which we human seem to love to kill for, actually even exist!!!! I dare you to prove that!! Oh, wait… We don’t know, we never will… We kill in the name of something that not a single human on earth has ever seen, talk to and has proof that it exists… Hmmm… don’t even know if he is real but we are happy to kill based on believes that have been bestowed upon all of us… Sad reflection on our intelligence as humans… Again, I’m not saying he doesn’t exists.. It is important to have faith but you cannot be blinded by it and humans have a tendency to use “God” to just excuse their cruelty and anger towards on another which too me reflects very poorly on human kind as a whole!! Kill in the name of god… is just fecking boring now! We need to learn to live in harmony and accept one another but this is not likely to happen anytime soon!!
And remember, use your brain and do not believe everything you hear or read!!! Every camp will try to brainwash you with their own propaganda and keep America into the great country that it is!!
The underlying problem regarding suicide attacks is the way the Koran currently is published. If it were published more completely, with reference to Mohammed’s life or deeds, these attacks would decline greatly.
I have tried to analyze this problem and have posted details for it (too long to append to this message). The web version may be found at http://www.scribd.com/doc/35761523/Toward-Islam-as-a-Religion.
Islam, from the time after Mohammed, has been both a religion and a basis of law. However, this combination confuses some practitioners, causing displacement of faith by intolerance, which latter then is enforced by violence, hatred, and death.
Books representing the Koran have not been written with these practitioners in mind, and, so, these books do not represent it well to them. It is suggested that books representing the Koran be written in a complete form which should include, as best possible, the actual words of Mohammed in the third person.
This change from an imperative to an indicative mood would put book srepresenting the Koran grammatically on a par with other religious documents and would free devout practitioners of Islam to advance conceptually and peaceably into the modern world.
I blink my eyes to read this from you: While I do not see the problem with Islam as race, …
Because even the race is part of art of war. And war is deceit.
islam manual is deceit and for that even religion and race and what not is used to deceive, to kill.
It has been a week and not a single visitor to this forum has taken me up on my challenge to come up with just once good reason why Muslims and their totalitarian ideology should be allowed to remain in America! Why is that? Because there is not one good reason…period.
Again, I say I say deport all of them, forcibly if necessary, back to whatever shit hole of a Third World failed Islamic state that they came from…the sooner the better. Refuse entry of any Muslim into America for any reason. Outlaw Islam, close down and destroy all mosques, close down all Muslim Brotherhood front groups such as CAIR, NAIT, MSA, etc., and hold all Muslims in detention camps for national security reasons until they can be deported. Let’s kick these descentants of apes, pigs, and dogs out of America and let the door hit them in the ass on their way out!!
There are many Hindus who become Muslims and Christians. But Do Hindus live their life truly or even try to? If one knows strength of self and strength of enemy, then one can make a real fight and be true to self. What Bill Warner replied is very true. We are in state of “they are good people” and as he said he is not against Islam as race but then if you are a good muslim then you should follow doctrine and that is dangerous for us (we kafirs). A survey not after 9/11 but after 10 years of 9/11 said that around 70% people didn’t even heard word Quran. Then how can they know anything more?
What about us who know? Can we make others aware of reality? Because if there is so much ignorance then we can’t fight really or do anything really
I challenge anyone to provide one legitimate reason why Muslims and their totalitarian ideology should be allowed to remain in America!! Just one…that is all I am asking…just one!!
By virtue of their actions, Muslims have demonstrated that they are enemies of the state, are waging a civilizational war against our Constitution, and choose not to assimilate into our American republic. Muslims are here to dominate, not assimilate. Muslims are here to wage all forms of jihad against America. Muslims do not give, they only take. Muslims do not ask, they only demand. Muslims do not contribute in any way, shape, or form to the overall general welfare of all Americans…only other Muslims. Muslims want to dominate and subjugate all non-Muslim kuffar under the yoke of Islam, they want to replace our Constitution (which they call “pure ignorance” because it is manmade; rather than Allah’s law) with Islamic sharia law. Muslims want to take away our freedom of speech with blasphemy laws against anyone who says anything they do not like – including the truth (Muslims can’t handle the truth). I say deport all of them, forcibly if necessary, back to whatever shit hole of a Third World failed Islamic state that they came from…the sooner the better. Refuse entry of any Muslim into America for any reason. Outlaw Islam, close down and destroy all mosques, close down all Muslim Brotherhood front groups such as CAIR, NAIT, MSA, etc., and hold all Muslims in detention camps for national security reasons until they can be deported. Islam and Muslims are like a deadly cancer that has invaded the host…it keeps growing until it completely takes over! The Muslim enemies within are like termites that have infested the foundation of our republic, they are slowing and steadily eating away by way of their jihad…all the while protected by our First Amendment, which they are using as a shield to to deflect from their political jihad.
Again, I challenge anyone, especially our Muslims enemies currently living in America, to give me just one good reason why Muslims and their totalitarian ideology should be allowed to remain in America!! Just one good reason!!
@ Dahiru Abubakar: The CSPI doesn’t make a point of teaching about Muslims. Muslims are people. They teach about the political system of Islam. But, Dahiru, when you post this sort of thing, YOU are personally showing us an example of Muslim intolerance. Your post here is just further evidence that what Bill Warner and the CSPI are teaching about Islam is fact. I don’t know whether the CSPI is “exposing their publications to the world”, as you so eloquently put it, but every day I am telling people all over America about the CPSI and its resources. I’m a Reagan optimist and feel confident that when Americans get sick enough of smelling the stink of Islam they will put out the garbage.
Mr. Warner is not trying to make Islam look bad, Islam is bad. If Islam looks bad, it’s because it just is bad. It all started with Muhammad and went down hill from there. Mr. Warner’s sources are the books written by Muslims, for Muslims. He hasn’t made anything up.
Your threats to Mr. Warner say far more about Islam than you realize, just as Mr. Larsen has told you.
Islam cannot play well with others, as the bad behavior of so many Muslims shows. If you’re not feeling well over what is said, you ought to be glad that you recognize that there is something wrong with Islam. It means that there may be some hope for you yet.
Sometimes the mirror is just hell though.
When I write to American converts to Islam, I tell them that converting to such a wretched religion means that they are either stupid, ignorant, or morally deformed. If they are not any of those things, then Islam is not the religion for them.
There is no reason that Islam has to be your religion either.
I understand it is a crime against Islam to question your religion, which is punishable by death. That’s why you are not able to read anything that is critical of it, and that’s why you don’t even know all the basic facts about it, beside what your imam tells you.
And that’s why you turn a blind eye on all the contradictions and obvious falsehood that you encounter in your Quran and other religious text.
That’s fine if you want to justify your faith to yourself, however if you want to convince someone else, you have to use better arguments than these, that you used here. But that unfortunately will require committing a crime of critical thinking.
Dear Mr. Warner. I don’t know how to contact you, so I’m using this forum, to ask you two questions. I’m very impressed by your knowledge about Islam, as well as the way you communicating it across. I agree with everything you say , however I see two difficulties, which I haven’t seen you addressing yet.
The first one is: How do you stop Islam using political means without violating the western principle of freedom of religion? You simply can not issue any law forbidding building mosques, Islamic cultural centers and schools, or spreading Islam in other ways without courts of law immediately striking it down, as unconstitutional.
And two: if we can not stop it politically, we need to conquer it spiritually. We must change their souls to abandon Islam. But that can not be done using present secular decadentism, which became dominant in our civilization. It has to be done by another religion, which offers freedom instead of Islamic oppression. And that religion is mainly Christianity, one of the building pillars of our civilization. The only problem is, that Christianity is under constant, ruthless attack by the world of secular humanism, which considers it it ‘s main enemy. Mainly because of false presumptions of oppression.
So our goal should not only be stopping Islam, but also convincing secularist, that their fight with Christian faith is destructive not only for Christianity, bat for secularist as well.
And in Dahiru Abubakar we have another one who quotes the Quran in order to prove that the Quran speaks the truth and nothing but the truth, because the Quran says it speaks the truth and this is the truth because the Quran says so, without a shred of rational evidence. Can it become more circular?
I don’t think Dahiru can grasp that everything he is writing only goes to prove the triumphant supremacism of Islam. He likely thinks the claims and demands of Islam are self-evident, that no excuses and explanations are needed. He clearly has no knowledge whatsover concerning the publications by Mr. Warner, he is deeply ignorant about the sources employed by Mr. Warner, and he concludes with a mix of the usual veiled threats and prophecies.
The likes of Dahiru are Islam’s worst enemies, and they are completely unaware of this.
good day Dr Bill,
I was opportune to watched your lecture title “Why we are afraid, a 1400 year Secret”.
I was very amazed to come across this kind of shameless attempt to spread these kind of lies by someone who claimed to be learned. You might be heedless of the fact that even your audience couldn’t believe your inconceivable fabrications about the Islam and Muslims. Many people of your kind had done their best to tarnish the image of Islam, but they were gabbed and rendered despicable by their words and ascriptions.
Are you heedless of the verse of the Holy Quran which says “The truth has come, and the falsehood disappeared, for the falsehood never standstill”? Put more grease to your elbows. But I am warning you. You fake historical records and published them to earn some miserable amount of money. You will join your colleagues into the kingdom of despicable human beings eventually.
If you are bold enough, and if you are really trying to enlightened the general public, why can’t you expose your publications to the world (both electronically and in had copies all over the globe)?
What you fell to understand about Islam is that, any attempt to tarnish its image would serves as the genesis of its growth and development. Allah the Truthful says in the Holy Quran ” He (Allah) is the One Who sent Him (Muhammad) with guidance (Quran and Hadith) and the true religion (Islam) and make it (Islam) to prevail above any other religion, even if the unbelievers dislike that.
That is the result of the 9/11 economic, religious, technological and political Hoax. Today we have not less than 6 million Muslims in the USA. May Allah guide you and your kind to the right path.
The history of the Internment of the Japs has been rewritten by movies like “Snow Falling on Cedars” when Sony took over MGM.
It is now forgotteen that the Japs had a well organized underground in LA waiting to desroy bridges and rails when the Japs got here…as they had done in Phillipines and Malasia and tried to do in Brazil and Argentina.
Best history for this is “Short History of the World” by Julkes Verne from 1948. New editions have been edited out. Also a brutal and acurate portrail of Mohammed and the true story of
“The Cube” and the return to Mecca from Medina and the torture that followed.
The clown Muslim US representaative from Minneapolis is comparing the Serin scam in Mississippi to Boston Marathon Bombing. Is there a Christian church that passes out instructions to make Serin?
your information is wrong you think this article is gonna break Islam then you are wrong Islam will stay forever and you are just a racist you just want to make Islam look bad and if you want to convince me give me PROOF.
“Islam ran the slave trade on the West coast, East coast and Mediterranean coasts of Africa”? “Islam sold every slave that was brought to the Americas”? Wow. Can you susbstatiate those claims with good arguments?
While I do not see the problem with Islam as race, I do see it as dogma and history. This is a civilizational war and we are choosing to deny that. Before we can to go war against a declared enemy we must develop the mind of war. Currently, we have the mind of “nice”. It is my purpose to develop the mind of war for Kafirs. My work is the precursor to the actual war.
I understand your predicament and I have watched your videos too. What I cannot understand is that we know they are a killer race….We know what is written in the koran and the genocide and ethnic cleansing and the stealing of our lands…..but what are we doing about it? What is the point of just writing about it? We already know they are our enemy and are killers. The whole race is a killer race because it is written in their books and that is exactly what they are doing…they have already destroyed my home and my spirit..The hindu spirit. Now they are in the west and you have opened the door. You give them immigration and then jobs and then homes and then inside your family. What is the point you are trying to make? I dont understand it because their women are more evil than their men.
Use as much of my material as you wish
May I copy parts of your articles (just a paragraph) giving full credit to your website in the hopes that the I can capture the curiosity of the reader to click on your address and read the rest of the story?
You are the most clear and concise writer on Islam and I always enjoy reading your books and articles.
Thank you, Bill Warner. I am
aware of everything he said; and
it amazes me how many are not.
The so called “brotherhood”
church and synagogue groups I
have gone to, seem to be stuck
in an naive mentality. Many are not
facing what is really going on in
spite of the bombings we have had
and the horrible persecution of
Christians around the world.
This situation calls for a
resistance, a strong one, in my
view. The sooner the better.
Again, thank you Bill Warner.
Meaning: How do you coexist with a neighbor who can make the ethical choice to deceive and murder?
in the article, i can’t determine if the sentence “How do you coexist with a neighbor who has the ethical choice of jihad of murder and deceit?” is how it was originally meant to be stated. Help, please. — jim
You wrote, “Under Bush and Obama, all of those who actually know something about Islam inside the military and law enforcement have been eliminated. FBI and military training files have been purged to satisfy the Muslim Brotherhood. So our protectors are forbidden to study the war doctrine of political Islam. They are prevented from naming the enemy and studying them.”
Why? Obama’s Leftist/Islamist Alliance is implementing an anti-American agenda against the America people and our Constitution. The Headquarters for the Leftist/Islamist Alliance is in our oval office. But don’t take my word for it, educate yourself about how America is being duped into a new world of “CHANGE” and “FORWARD.”
View these eye-opening documentaries and judge for yourself:
AGENDA: Grinding America Down
Dreams From My Real Father